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The discussion revolves around the properties of a function defined as $\rho(f,g)=\int \frac{|f-g|}{1+|f-g|}d \mu$ in the context of measurable functions in a space of finite measure. Participants are tasked with showing that $\rho$ is a metric and exploring the conditions under which convergence in $\rho$ corresponds to convergence in measure.

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  • Some participants clarify that "$f_n \rightarrow f$ as for $\rho$" likely means "$\rho(f_n,f) \to 0$".
  • One participant proposes that to prove $\rho$ is a metric, one must first show that the function $D(f,g) = \frac{|f - g|}{1 + |f - g|}$ is a metric.
  • Another participant outlines steps to show that $D$ satisfies non-negativity, identity of indiscernibles, symmetry, and attempts to establish the triangle inequality.
  • Some participants discuss the implications of Chebyshev's inequality in relation to the convergence of $\rho(f_n,f)$ and the measure of sets where $|f_n - f| > c$.
  • There is a suggestion that the triangle inequality for $\rho$ follows from the triangle inequality for $D$, and that properties of integrals over finite measure spaces support this.
  • Participants express confusion about certain notations and seek further clarification on the implications of the strictly increasing nature of the function $F(x) = \frac{x}{1 + x}$.
  • Some participants question how to continue proving the triangle inequality for $D$ and how this leads to concluding that $\rho$ is a metric.

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Participants generally agree on the need to establish that $D$ is a metric as a precursor to proving that $\rho$ is a metric. However, there are ongoing discussions and questions regarding the details of the proofs, particularly concerning the triangle inequality and the implications of convergence in measure.

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Some participants express uncertainty about specific mathematical steps and notations, particularly regarding the implications of the properties of the function $F$ and the relationships between the sets defined by the convergence conditions.

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Hey! :o

In a space of finite measure, if $f$ and $g$ are measurable we set $\rho (f,g)=\int \frac{|f-g|}{1+|f-g|}d \mu$.

Show that $\rho$ is metric and that $f_n \rightarrow f$ as for $\rho$ if and only if $\forall c>0$ we have that $\mu(\{|f_n-f|>c\})\rightarrow 0$.What does "$f_n \rightarrow f$ as for $\rho$" mean ?? (Wondering)
 
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"$f_n \rightarrow f$ as for $\rho$" is not idiomatic English. But it must surely mean "$\rho(f_n,f) \to0$".
 
To prove that $\rho$ is a metric, first show that the function $D$ given by

$$D(f,g) = \frac{|f - g|}{1 + |f - g|}$$

is a metric.

Suppose $\rho(f_n,f) \to 0$. Fix $c > 0$. Since the function $F(x) = \frac{x}{1 + x}$ is strictly increasing on $[0, \infty)$,

$$\mu\{|f_n - f| > c\} \le \mu\left\{D(f_n,f) > \frac{c}{1 + c}\right\}.$$

By Chebyshev's inequality, it follows that

$$\mu\left\{D(f_n,f) > \frac{c}{1 + c}\right\} \le \frac{1 + c}{c} \int D(f_n, f)\, d\mu = \frac{1+c}{c}\rho(f_n,f) \to 0.$$

Therefore $\mu\{|f_n - f| > c\} \to 0$, and consequently $f_n$ converges in $\mu$-measure to $f$.

To prove the converse, I'll let $X$ be the common domain of $f$ and the $f_n$. This is where the hypothesis $\mu(X) < \infty$ is essential. Suppose $f_n$ converges in $\mu$-measure to $f$. Given $\varepsilon > 0$, set $E_n(\varepsilon) = \{|f_n - f| > \varepsilon\}$, $n = 1, 2, 3,\ldots.$ Then

$$\rho(f_n,f) = \int_{E_n(\varepsilon)} D(f_n,f)\, d\mu + \int_{X\setminus E_n(\varepsilon)} D(f_n,f)\, d\mu.$$

Since $D(f_n,f) < 1$,

$$\int_{E_n(\varepsilon)} D(f_n,f)\, d\mu < \mu(E_n(\varepsilon)).$$

On $X\setminus E_n(\varepsilon)$, $D(f_n,f) \le \frac{\varepsilon}{1 + \varepsilon}$. Thus

$$ \int_{X\setminus E_n(\varepsilon)} D(f_n,f)\, d\mu \le \frac{\varepsilon}{1 + \varepsilon}\mu(X\setminus E_n(\varepsilon)) \le \frac{\varepsilon}{1 + \varepsilon}\mu(X). $$

Hence

$$\limsup_{n\to \infty}\rho(f_n,f) \le \limsup_{n\to \infty} \left(\mu(E_n(\varepsilon)) + \frac{\varepsilon}{1 + \varepsilon}\mu(X)\right) \le \frac{\varepsilon}{1 + \varepsilon}\mu(X),$$

since $\mu(E_n(\varepsilon)) \to 0$ by hypothesis. As $\mu(X) < \infty$ and $\varepsilon$ was arbitrary positive number, $\rho(f_n,f) \to 0$.
 
Euge said:
To prove that $\rho$ is a metric, first show that the function $D$ given by

$$D(f,g) = \frac{|f - g|}{1 + |f - g|}$$

is a metric.

To show that $D(f,g)$ is metric I have done the following:
  1. $$D(f,g)\geq 0, \forall f,g$$
  2. $$D(f,g)=0\Leftrightarrow |f-g|=0\Leftrightarrow f=g$$
  3. $$D(g,f)=\frac{|g-f|}{1+|g-f|}=\frac{|f-g|}{1+|f-g|}=D(f,g)$$
  4. $$D(f,g)=\frac{|f-g|}{1+|f-g|}=\frac{|f-z+z-g|}{1+|f-g|}\leq \frac{|f-z|+|z-g|}{1+|f-g|}=\frac{|f-z|}{1+|f-g|}+\frac{|z-g|}{1+|f-g|}$$ How can I continue to show the triangle inequality?? (Wondering)
 
mathmari said:
To show that $D(f,g)$ is metric I have done the following:
  1. $$D(f,g)\geq 0, \forall f,g$$
  2. $$D(f,g)=0\Leftrightarrow |f-g|=0\Leftrightarrow f=g$$
  3. $$D(g,f)=\frac{|g-f|}{1+|g-f|}=\frac{|f-g|}{1+|f-g|}=D(f,g)$$
  4. $$D(f,g)=\frac{|f-g|}{1+|f-g|}=\frac{|f-z+z-g|}{1+|f-g|}\leq \frac{|f-z|+|z-g|}{1+|f-g|}=\frac{|f-z|}{1+|f-g|}+\frac{|z-g|}{1+|f-g|}$$ How can I continue to show the triangle inequality?? (Wondering)

Hi mathmari,

To prove the triangle inequality, consider the function $\phi(x) := \frac{x}{1 + x}$ on $[0, \infty)$. Show that $\phi$ is increasing and satisfies the inequality $\phi(x + y) \le \phi(x) + \phi(y)$ for all $x, y \in [0,\infty)$. Then you may establish the inequalities

$$D(f,g) = \phi(|f - g|) \le \phi(|f - z| + |z - g|) \le \phi(|f - z|) + \phi(|z - g|) = D(f,z) + D(z,g)$$

for all $f, g, z$.
 
Euge said:
Hi mathmari,

To prove the triangle inequality, consider the function $\phi(x) := \frac{x}{1 + x}$ on $[0, \infty)$. Show that $\phi$ is increasing and satisfies the inequality $\phi(x + y) \le \phi(x) + \phi(y)$ for all $x, y \in [0,\infty)$. Then you may establish the inequalities

$$D(f,g) = \phi(|f - g|) \le \phi(|f - z| + |z - g|) \le \phi(|f - z|) + \phi(|z - g|) = D(f,z) + D(z,g)$$

for all $f, g, z$.

Ok! (Smile)

Having shown that $D$ is metric, how do we conclude that $\rho$ is metric?? (Wondering)
 
mathmari said:
Ok! (Smile)

Having shown that $D$ is metric, how do we conclude that $\rho$ is metric?? (Wondering)

The only property you really need from $D$ is the triangle inequality, so that you can prove the triangle inequality for $\rho$. Symmetry and positive definiteness of $\rho$ follow directly from the definition of $\rho$ and integral properties. Moreover, since $\rho(f,g)$ is an integral over a space of finite measure and $f$ and $g$ are measurable, $\rho(f,g)$ is finite.
 
Euge said:
Suppose $\rho(f_n,f) \to 0$. Fix $c > 0$. Since the function $F(x) = \frac{x}{1 + x}$ is strictly increasing on $[0, \infty)$,

$$\mu\{|f_n - f| > c\} \le \mu\left\{D(f_n,f) > \frac{c}{1 + c}\right\}.$$

By Chebyshev's inequality, it follows that

$$\mu\left\{D(f_n,f) > \frac{c}{1 + c}\right\} \le \frac{1 + c}{c} \int D(f_n, f)\, d\mu = \frac{1+c}{c}\rho(f_n,f) \to 0.$$

Therefore $\mu\{|f_n - f| > c\} \to 0$, and consequently $f_n$ converges in $\mu$-measure to $f$.

Could you explain it further to me?? (Wondering)
 
Hi mathmari,

Recall that a positive measure $\mu$ satisfies subadditivity: If $A$ and $B$ are measurable and $A \subset B$, then $\mu(A) \le \mu(B)$. Since $F$ is strictly increasing on $[0,\infty)$, $|f_n - f| > c$ implies $F(|f_n - f|) > F(c)$, i.e., $D(f_n, f) > \frac{c}{1 + c}$. Hence $\{x \in X : |f_n(x) - f(x)| > c\} \subset \{x\in X : D(f_n(x),f(x)) > \frac{c}{1 + c}\}$. Consequently by subadditivity, $\mu\{|f_n - f| > c\} \le \mu\{D(f_n,f) > \frac{c}{1 + c}\}$.

For the next part, Chebyshev's inequality was used -- for any $g \in L^1(X,\mu)$, $\mu\{|g| > \alpha\} \le \alpha^{-1} \int_X |g|\, d\mu$. Now set $g = D(f_n,f)$ and $\alpha = \frac{c}{1 + c}$ to get

$$ \mu\left\{D(f_n,f) > \frac{c}{1 + c}\right\} \le \frac{1 + c}{c} \int_X D(f_n,f)\, d\mu = \frac{1 + c}{c}\rho(f_n,f).$$
 
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Euge said:
Since $F$ is strictly increasing on $[0,\infty)$, $|f_n - f| > c$ implies $F(|f_n - f|) > F(c)$, i.e., $D(f_n, f) > \frac{c}{1 + c}$.

Could you explain me further this part?? (Wondering)
 
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Sorry, I may have confused you with the notation. Since $F$ is strictly increasing on $[0,\infty)$, $F(x) > F(y)$ whenever $x > y \ge 0$. So for each $x \in X$, $|f_n(x) - f(x)| > c$ implies $F(|f_n(x) - f(x)|) > F(c)$. By definition of $D$, $D(f_n(x), f(x)) = F(|f_n(x) - f(x)|)$. Also, $F(c) = \frac{c}{1 + c}$. So we have that for all $x \in X$, $|f_n(x) - f(x)| > c$ implies $D(f_n(x),f(x)) < \frac{c}{1 + c}$. In terms of sets, this translates to

$$\{x\in X : |f_n(x) - f(x)| > c\} \subset \left\{x \in X : D(f_n(x), f(x)) > \frac{c}{1 + c}\right\}.$$
 
  • #12
Euge said:
Sorry, I may have confused you with the notation. Since $F$ is strictly increasing on $[0,\infty)$, $F(x) > F(y)$ whenever $x > y \ge 0$. So for each $x \in X$, $|f_n(x) - f(x)| > c$ implies $F(|f_n(x) - f(x)|) > F(c)$. By definition of $D$, $D(f_n(x), f(x)) = F(|f_n(x) - f(x)|)$. Also, $F(c) = \frac{c}{1 + c}$. So we have that for all $x \in X$, $|f_n(x) - f(x)| > c$ implies $D(f_n(x),f(x)) < \frac{c}{1 + c}$. In terms of sets, this translates to

$$\{x\in X : |f_n(x) - f(x)| > c\} \subset \left\{x \in X : D(f_n(x), f(x)) > \frac{c}{1 + c}\right\}.$$

Could you explain me the last inclusion?? (Wondering)

Why does it stand that $$\{x\in X : |f_n(x) - f(x)| > c\} \subset \left\{x \in X : D(f_n(x), f(x)) > \frac{c}{1 + c}\right\}$$ (Wondering)
 

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