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The discussion revolves around the proof of a theorem concerning the solution of a partial differential equation involving the heat equation in multiple dimensions. Participants explore the validity of the proposed solution and the application of integrals in the context of generalized Riemann and Lebesgue integrals.

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  • One participant presents a theorem stating that the solution to the heat equation can be expressed as an integral involving a fundamental solution and an initial condition.
  • Another participant questions the applicability of the Riemann integral definition, suggesting that a multiple integral or Lebesgue integral may be more appropriate for functions defined on $\mathbb{R}^n$.
  • There is a discussion about the conditions under which the generalized integral can be evaluated, particularly concerning the continuity of the function involved.
  • Participants propose methods for calculating integrals over regions outside a bounded set, exploring the relationship between surface and volume integrals in higher dimensions.
  • Questions arise regarding the validity of certain inequalities and the choice of partitions in the context of integrals, with a focus on ensuring the conditions for convergence are met.
  • One participant seeks clarification on the equality relating to the transformation of integrals from a volume to a surface integral, suggesting a geometric interpretation involving spheres in $\mathbb{R}^n$.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriate integral definitions and methods for evaluating the integrals involved. There is no consensus on the best approach to take, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of the integral calculations and their implications.

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The discussion highlights limitations in the assumptions made regarding the continuity and boundedness of the function $\phi(x)$, as well as the dependence on the definitions of integrals used in the proofs. The scope of the discussion is restricted to the mathematical framework presented by the participants.

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Hello! (Wave)

Theorem: Suppose that $\phi(x)$ is continuous and bounded in $\mathbb{R}^n$, then the solution of the problem

$$u_t=\Delta u \text{ in } (0,T) \times \mathbb{R}^n , \forall T>0 \\ u(0,x)=\phi(x), x \in \mathbb{R}^n$$

is given by the formula $u(t,x)=\int_{\mathbb{R}^n} \Gamma(t,x-\xi) \phi(\xi) d{\xi}$.

We have that $\Gamma(t-\tau,x- \xi)=\frac{1}{2^n [\pi(t-\tau)]^{\frac{n}{2}}} e^{-\frac{|x-\xi|^2}{4 (t-\tau)}}$.

We can see that $\Gamma_t-\Delta_x \Gamma=0$ and so we get that $u_t-\Delta u=0, \forall t>0$.

In order to show that $u(0,x)=\phi(x)$ we consider the difference $u(t,x)-\phi(x)$.

$u(t,x)-\phi(x)=\int_{\mathbb{R}^n} \Gamma(t,x-\xi) [\phi(\xi)-\phi(x)] d{\xi}$.

We set $\xi_i-x_i=2 \sqrt{t} \sigma_i, i=1, \dots, n$ and we get $u(t,x)-\phi(x)=\pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \int_{\mathbb{R}^n} e^{-|\sigma|^2} [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)] d{\sigma}$.

Let $Q_R=\{ |\sigma|<R\}$,

then $u(t,x)-\phi(x)=\pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \int_{Q_R} e^{-|\sigma|^2} [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)] d{\sigma}+\pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \int_{\mathbb{R}^n \setminus{Q_R}} e^{-|\sigma|^2} [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)] d{\sigma}(\star)$

From the definition of the generalized integral $\forall \epsilon>0$ there exists a $R>0$ such that $\pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \left| \int_{\mathbb{R}^n \setminus{Q_R}} e^{-|\sigma|^2 } [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)] d{\sigma} \right| \leq \frac{\epsilon}{2}$.

Since $\phi$ is continuous for a given $R>0$ there is a $\delta>0$ such that for $0<t<\delta$ it holds that

$\pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \int_{Q_R} e^{-|\sigma|^2} |\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t}\sigma)-\phi(x)| d{\sigma} \leq \frac{\epsilon}{2}$

So from the $(\star)$ we will have that $\forall \epsilon>0$ there is a $\delta>0$ such that $|u(t,x)-\phi(x)| \leq \epsilon$ if $0<t< \delta$, i.e. $\lim_{t \to 0} u(t,x)=\phi(x)$.First of all, I have found that the definition of the generalized Riemann integral is the following:

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In our case, at the integral where we use this definition , we have an open set, namely this one $\mathbb{R}^n \setminus{Q_R}$. Do we pick an arbitrary $[a,b] \in \mathbb{R}^n \setminus{Q_R}$ and consider a partition of it?

If so, then we have that for each $\epsilon>0$ there is a $R>0$ such that for every partition of $[a,b]$

$a=x_0 < x_1< x_2< \dots<x_n=b$

with tags $x_{k-1} \leq t_k \leq x_k, k=0,1, \dots,n$ we have $$\left| \int_{\mathbb{R}^n \setminus{Q_R}} e^{-|\sigma|^2} [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)] d{\sigma}- \sum_{k=1}^n e^{-|\sigma|^2} [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} t_k)-\phi(x)] (x_k-x_{k-1}) \right|< \epsilon$$

whenever $x_k-x_{k-1}<R$.Do we pick now $x_k-x_{k-1} \to 0$ in order to get the inequality for the integral?

Also, in order to get the following inequality:$\pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \int_{Q_R} e^{-|\sigma|^2} |\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t}\sigma)-\phi(x)| d{\sigma} \leq \frac{\epsilon}{2}$we use the continuity of $\phi$, so for each $\epsilon>0, \exists \delta'>0$ such that if $0< x+ 2\sqrt{t} \sigma-x=2 \sqrt{t} \sigma< \delta'$ we have that $|\phi(x+ 2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)| \leq \epsilon$.

Then $\pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \int_{Q_R} e^{-|\sigma|^2} |\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)|d{\sigma} \leq \pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \epsilon \int_{Q_R} e^{-|\sigma|^2} d{\sigma} \leq \pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \epsilon \int_{\mathbb{R}^n} e^{-|\sigma|^2} d{\sigma}=\epsilon$.

Right? Do we set $\delta=\frac{\delta'^2}{4 \sigma^2}$ ?

Also does the first inequality hold for any $t$ and so also for $0<t< \delta$? (Thinking)
 

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Hi evinda! (Smile)

I believe you've quoted the definition of a non-generalized Riemann integral.
However, it only applies to functions with a domain that is an interval in $\mathbb R$.

Shouldn't we look at a multiple integral, since we have a function with a domain in $\mathbb R^n$? (Wondering)

Or actually the Lesbesgue integral that applies to functions on any domain? (Wondering)
Note that your integral is of the form $\int f\,d\mu$.
 
I like Serena said:
Hi evinda! (Smile)

I believe you've quoted the definition of a non-generalized Riemann integral.
However, it only applies to functions with a domain that is an interval in $\mathbb R$.

Shouldn't we look at a multiple integral, since we have a function with a domain in $\mathbb R^n$? (Wondering)

Or actually the Lesbesgue integral that applies to functions on any domain? (Wondering)
Note that your integral is of the form $\int f\,d\mu$.

Ok... where can we find the $\epsilon, \delta$-proof of these integrals?
 
evinda said:
Let $Q_R=\{ |\sigma|<R\}$,

From the definition of the generalized integral $\forall \epsilon>0$ there exists a $R>0$ such that $\pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \left| \int_{\mathbb{R}^n \setminus{Q_R}} e^{-|\sigma|^2 } [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)] d{\sigma} \right| \leq \frac{\epsilon}{2}$.

How about we calculate it as:
$$\pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \left| \int_{\mathbb{R}^n \setminus{Q_R}} e^{-|\sigma|^2 } [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)] d{\sigma} \right|
= \pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \left| \int_{r=R}^\infty\int_{\sigma\in\partial{Q_r}} e^{-|\sigma|^2 } [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)] \,ds\,dr\right| \\
\le \pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \left| \int_{R}^\infty e^{-r^2 }\cdot 2M \cdot w_nr^{n-1}\,dr\right|
$$
(Wondering)

Now it's a Riemann Integral. (Happy)
 
I like Serena said:
How about we calculate it as:
$$\pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \left| \int_{\mathbb{R}^n \setminus{Q_R}} e^{-|\sigma|^2 } [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)] d{\sigma} \right|
= \pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \left| \int_{r=R}^\infty\int_{\sigma\in\partial{Q_r}} e^{-|\sigma|^2 } [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)] \,ds\,dr\right| \\
\le \pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \left| \int_{R}^\infty e^{-r^2 }\cdot 2M \cdot w_nr^{n-1}\,dr\right|
$$
(Wondering)

Now it's a Riemann Integral. (Happy)

Why does the equality you write hold? Namely this one:

$$\pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \left| \int_{\mathbb{R}^n \setminus{Q_R}} e^{-|\sigma|^2 } [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)] d{\sigma} \right|
= \pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \left| \int_{r=R}^\infty\int_{\sigma\in\partial{Q_r}} e^{-|\sigma|^2 } [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)] \,ds\,dr\right|$$
 
evinda said:
Why does the equality you write hold? Namely this one:

$$\pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \left| \int_{\mathbb{R}^n \setminus{Q_R}} e^{-|\sigma|^2 } [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)] d{\sigma} \right|
= \pi^{-\frac{n}{2}} \left| \int_{r=R}^\infty\int_{\sigma\in\partial{Q_r}} e^{-|\sigma|^2 } [\phi(x+2 \sqrt{t} \sigma)-\phi(x)] \,ds\,dr\right|$$

Let's pick an example.
Suppose we pick the 1-sphere and integrate some $f(\sigma)$ from $R$ to $\infty$.

Then it looks like:
\begin{tikzpicture}[scale=0.7]
\draw[->] (0,0) -- (40:3) node
{R};
\draw[blue, ultra thick] circle (3);
\draw[gray, thin] circle (5) circle (6);
\path[blue, ultra thick] (50:5) -- node[below left] {$ds$} (70:5) -- node
{$dr$} (70:6) -- node[below] {$d\sigma$} (50:6) -- cycle;
\draw[blue, ultra thick] (50:5) arc (50:70:5) -- node
{$dr$} (70:6) arc (70:50:6) -- cycle;
\end{tikzpicture}
We have a "volume" element $d\sigma$ in a ball that is equal to a "surface" element $ds$ on the corresponding sphere times $dr$.
So:
$$\int_{\mathbb R^2 \setminus B_R} f(\sigma)\,d\sigma
= \int_R^\infty \int_0^{2\pi} f(\sigma)\,rd\phi\,dr
= \int_R^\infty \int_{\partial B_r} f(\sigma)\,ds\,dr
$$

Can we generalize it to $\mathbb R^n$ with an $(n-1)$-sphere? (Wondering)​
 

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