Show that wave function in coordinates x,y is normalized

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The discussion revolves around the normalization of a wave function defined in two dimensions, specifically in the context of quantum mechanics. The wave function is given as a product involving variables x and y, and participants are exploring how to properly set up the normalization condition for this function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to integrate the probability density over the appropriate limits for x and y, questioning how to handle the normalization integral. There is mention of integrating from 0 to a for x and from 0 to b for y, suggesting a focus on bounded regions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to express the normalization condition in the position basis and have suggested methods for simplifying the integral. However, there are concerns about the validity of the wave function as it may not approach zero at infinity, leading to questions about its correctness.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the wave function's form, with participants noting that it should vanish as x and y approach infinity. This raises potential issues with the normalization process, as the original poster expresses doubt about the function's correctness.

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Homework Statement


A particle is described by the state of the following wave function.

wavefunction(x,y) = 30/[(a^5)(b^5)]^1/2 * x(a-x) * b(b-y)

Homework Equations


integral from 0 to i of x^n * (1-x)^m dx = (n!m!)/(n+m+1)!

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that normalizing means taking the integral from negative infinity to positive infinity of the probability density squared with respect to x, but I just don't know how to take that with respect to x and y. I tried looking at problems that involved a particle in a 2d box, but doing the math seems extremely difficult.
 
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I presume when you say that is the wavefunction you mean that is the wavefunction's representation in the position (X) basis.
In that case your statement equates to saying that
$$\langle x,y | \psi\rangle = \frac{30}{\sqrt{a^5+b^5}}x(a-x)b(b-y)$$
and you are asked to prove that ##\langle \psi|\psi\rangle = 1##.

What you need to do is expand ##\langle \psi|\psi \rangle= 1## in the X basis as follows:

$$\langle \psi|\psi\rangle = \int_{-\infty}^\infty \int_{-\infty}^\infty \langle \psi | x,y\rangle\langle x,y | \psi\rangle\, dy\,dx$$

Now use the fact that ##\langle u|v\rangle = \langle v|u\rangle^*## to simplify that and substitute in your function for ##\langle x,y | \psi\rangle##. You should find that the integral factorises nice and easily.

ETA: But I don't think the integrals will exist. Are you sure you wrote the function correctly? It should go to zero as ##x,y\to\pm\infty##, but what you wrote doesn't.
 
It shows now boundaries, but people have suggested that I integrate from 0->a according to x and 0->b according to y.
 
andrewkirk said:
I presume when you say that is the wavefunction you mean that is the wavefunction's representation in the position (X) basis.
In that case your statement equates to saying that
$$\langle x,y | \psi\rangle = \frac{30}{\sqrt{a^5+b^5}}x(a-x)b(b-y)$$
and you are asked to prove that ##\langle \psi|\psi\rangle = 1##.

What you need to do is expand ##\langle \psi|\psi \rangle= 1## in the X basis as follows:

$$\langle \psi|\psi\rangle = \int_{-\infty}^\infty \int_{-\infty}^\infty \langle \psi | x,y\rangle\langle x,y | \psi\rangle\, dy\,dx$$

Now use the fact that ##\langle u|v\rangle = \langle v|u\rangle^*## to simplify that and substitute in your function for ##\langle x,y | \psi\rangle##. You should find that the integral factorises nice and easily.

ETA: But I don't think the integrals will exist. Are you sure you wrote the function correctly? It should go to zero as ##x,y\to\pm\infty##, but what you wrote doesn't.
also, its (a^5)*(b^5) but the way you stated how to integrate it according to x and then y helped a lot. Not sure if the answer is correct, but I shall ask my teacher when I get it back. thank you!
 

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