Showing that a half-open set is neither open nor closed

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the half-open interval [a,b) in the context of topology, specifically addressing whether it is open or closed.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to demonstrate that [a,b) is not open by considering a specific point and the corresponding epsilon neighborhood. Some participants question the adequacy of the reasoning provided. There is also a discussion about the terminology used, with comments suggesting clarification on the term "half-open set."

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Participants are engaging in a mix of clarifying the original poster's reasoning and discussing the terminology. While some guidance has been offered regarding the openness of the set, there is no explicit consensus on the closure properties yet.

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There are comments reflecting on the definitions and properties of sets, indicating a potential misunderstanding or ambiguity in terminology. The discussion also includes light-hearted remarks that do not contribute to the mathematical analysis.

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Homework Statement


Where ##a,b\in \mathbb{R}##, show that ##[a,b)## is not open.

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I need to show that there exists an ##x\in [a,b)## such that for all ##\epsilon > 0##, ##B_\epsilon (x) \not \subseteq [a,b)##. To this end put ##x=a##, and let ##\epsilon > 0##. Then ##B_\epsilon (x)= (a-\epsilon, a+\epsilon)##, and since ##a-\epsilon < a##, we have that ##B_\epsilon (x) \not \subseteq [a,b)##.

Is noting that ##a-\epsilon < a## enough to prove that one is not a subset of the other?
 
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Yes.

And why isn't it closed?
 
Just a comment. I assume you may have meant half-open interval, not half open set since I can't think of any other setting in which a set may be half open.
 
WWGD said:
Just a comment. I assume you may have meant half-open interval, not half open set since I can't think of any other setting in which a set may be half open.
The set of molecules forming your front door :biggrin:
 
Actually, I ruined someone's joke that a set is not like a door, open or closed. A door may be open , closed and locked or closed and unlocked. But I can't think of unlocked open sets ;).
 
WWGD said:
But I can't think of unlocked open sets ;)
"Many of the perpetually open Denny’s restaurants were built without locks, which was problematic when they decided to close down for Christmas for the first time in 1988."
 

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