Shrinkage allowance for patterns

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The discussion revolves around the concept of shrinkage allowance in casting patterns, specifically addressing whether the bore diameter of a pattern should be increased to account for the shrinkage of metal as it cools. The scope includes technical considerations related to materials used in casting and the effects of temperature changes on dimensions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the bore diameter of a casting pattern should be increased to account for shrinkage during cooling.
  • Another participant notes that the effect of shrinkage depends on the material used for casting, mentioning that different materials can behave differently.
  • A participant rephrases the question regarding the change in bore diameter of a hot metal ingot after cooling, leading to a claim that the bore diameter will decrease.
  • Several participants agree that the bore diameter will decrease during the cooling of a casting, but one adds that some alloys may exhibit different shrinkage behaviors, including potential increases in size.
  • It is suggested that for most metals that contract upon cooling, the bore diameter will decrease, but the exact amount of change may vary and achieving desired tolerances could involve trial and error.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the bore diameter decreases during cooling for most metals, but there are competing views regarding the behavior of specific alloys and the variability in shrinkage rates.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the amount of shrinkage can vary significantly based on the type of alloy and other factors, indicating that assumptions about uniform behavior may not hold true across all materials.

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While making a pattern for a casting do we increase or the bore diameter of the pattern, than actually required in the casting, taking into consideration the shrinkage allowance for metal?
 
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It depends on the material you're using to make the casting. There's a reason why Ferrari parts are made with molds made from sand.
 
I'll put the question in a different way. If we have a hot metal ingot with a bore, after the ingot cools down, whether the bore diameter will increase or decrease?
 
Bore diameter will decrease.
 
pantaz said:
Bore diameter will decrease.

So this is exactly what would happen during the cooling of a similar casting, after it has solidified?
 
Ritz_physics said:
So this is exactly what would happen during the cooling of a similar casting, after it has solidified?

Generally speaking, yes, but...
Wikipedia said:
... Some alloys will have overall linear shrinkage of up to 2.5%, whereas other alloys may actually experience no shrinkage or a slight "positive" shrinkage or increase in size in the casting process (notably type metal and certain cast irons). ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_(casting)#Contraction_allowances_.2F_Shrinkage_allowance
 
Ok.. anyway for most metals (the ones that contract on cooling) the bore diameter will decrease during the shrinkage of casting, right?
 
Ritz_physics said:
Ok.. anyway for most metals (the ones that contract on cooling) the bore diameter will decrease during the shrinkage of casting, right?

Again, yes. The amount of change will depend on many things. Getting the "as cast" dimensions to meet your required tolerances may require considerable trial & error.
 

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