Sickening Ignorance: Was Yoga Made in America?

[Les Sleeth]

You can't teach people how to think, that's the problem. Because when you teach them to think your way, then they are bound to draw your conclusions.

Example, a story about Niels Bohr:



The point being you can't teach people how to think. They're born the way they are, and we're stuck with them. For better or worse, usually worse.

You are quite wrong about this. People can be taught to think with the right program and the right teacher. Your Niels Bohr story doesn't prove anything except that ONE SINGLE PERSON wasn't willing to think. Why do you think there are schools? Is it because we just want to waste our time trying to teach all the morons to think?

Who do you believe is most at fault for why education fails to teach people to think? Aside from the fact that there are no courses teaching it early on, it couldn't be because all the genius thinkers who design education courses haven't figured out that people don't learn very much through rote memory, competition, and test taking could it?

It's easy to act superior. It takes a lot more intelligence to understand the human condition in relation to human potential, and then design a solution to make things better.

 

[tribdog]

I knew yoga was from in India. Geronimo was it's inventor.

 

[franznietzsche]

You are quite wrong about this. People can be taught to think with the right program and the right teacher. Your Niels Bohr story doesn't prove anything except that ONE SINGLE PERSON wasn't willing to think. Why do you think there are schools? Is it because we just want to waste our time trying to teach all the morons to think?

Who do you believe is most at fault for why education fails to teach people to think? Aside from the fact that there are no courses teaching it early on, it couldn't be because all the genius thinkers who design education courses haven't figured out that people don't learn very much through rote memory, competition, and test taking could it?

It's easy to act superior. It takes a lot more intelligence to understand the human condition in relation to human potential, and then design a solution to make things better.

Actually Bohr was the one who was thinking. So your comment there makes no sense.

Schools are there to impart information. However the schools in this country are a systematic failure. They are assembly line style education that tries tofit everyone into one model, and in so doing fails almost everyone. It fails the people who are too stupid to get it, because they just fall farther and farther behind, and it fails the people who are smart enough because it holds them back (i've got a real anger issue with that right now since high school was a complete waste of my time, much ranting and ravinglately).

Schools are not designed to teach us to think, they are designed to cram information down our throats, and they fail at even that. The fact of the matter is there are incredibly few teachers qualified to be teaching despite whatever standards they do meet,mostof them are not any good. This is simply because the people teaching are the ones who enjoy not, and those arenot necessarily the ones who are good at it.

You cannot take a class in 'thinking.' The only to learn that is by example. Notice how the best phycisists learned from the best physicists. Feynman was a student of Wheeler. Nash was at princeton with einstein. The best minds learn from the best minds by example. The average teacher isno where near being the best mind, and is not qualified to teach people how to think. The education system is not oriented to teach people how to think, only to teach them information, and as i have said it is a failure at that.

A complete reform of the education system would be necessary for it to be even worth half of the money that is wasted on it. but the problem would remain that there virtually no qualified teachers in this country. Every school has one or two out of 30. And those are of the schools I've seen, which were all in middle/upper class suburbs. in the inner cities, there are even fewer good teachers. The educational system, asdictated by politicians is a failure, and always will be as long as it is dictated by politicians.

There are too many people from the leve intellectual mediocrity who are unqualified to understand what they're talking about running the educational system. Add to that problem the liberal idea of progress by limiting disciplinary power of teachers, talking control away from the ground level and giving it too administrations, and there is no hope of even the faintest light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[Loren Booda]

klusener

I suppose you all know yoga, well I went to a local class just to see how Americans do it, being Indian myself, and the "teacher" starts by saying "you all should be glad, because you are going to learn an All-american exercise technique today" at that moment, I was really weighing the pros and cons of going to the front and punching that guy in the face. But i restrained myself and asked him what he meant by all-american, he responds that yoga is american and made by americans .. holy ****, i was thinking at that moment, how stupid can this guy be...

To me this "teacher" sounds more arrogantly racist, with an inferiority complex, than ignorant. He does not represent the majority of Americans. I offer that violence is the antithesis to yoga.

Be glad that you did not react with base instinct. What would the world be with everyone lashing out physically when just a knowing smile and fixed gaze can suffice?

 

[franznietzsche]

klusenerTo me this "teacher" sounds more arrogantly racist, with an inferiority complex, than ignorant. He does not represent the majority of Americans. I offer that violence is the antithesis to yoga.

Be glad that you did not react with base instinct. What would the world be with everyone lashing out physically when just a knowing smile and fixed gaze can suffice?

Actually Loren, he really does represent the majorityof Americans. I'm sad to say it, but even in universities, people are really like that. Its sickening.

However, its possible that he just represents the majority of people, and people in tohercountries are equally ignorant, but i can't speak for them, but i can say, that the majority of americans are that bad, though not all about the same things.

 

[the number 42]

I did not know where yoga was invented, and personally I don't care.

Good point, well argued. Anyway, ignorance is more fun than knowledge - any idiot knows that.

...everything originated in the US.

I think you'll find that was Pandora's box. In any case, the US itself was invented by the Italians (Columbus), English (founding fathers), and French (Liberty etc).

 

[the number 42]

klusenerTo me this "teacher" sounds more arrogantly racist, with an inferiority complex, than ignorant. He does not represent the majority of Americans. I offer that violence is the antithesis to yoga.

That feller can teach me yoga or politics or whatever he likes any day of the week. In fact he should have his own show on telly. Hell, why isn't he running for office?

Be glad that you did not react with base instinct.

Don't diss baser instincts. Hell, I love that bit where she crosses her legs

What would the world be with everyone lashing out physically when just a knowing smile and fixed gaze can suffice?

You mean like this: ?