Sign convention problem in momentum calulations

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The problem involves a collision between two particles, A and B, where particle A has a mass of 1kg and an initial velocity of 2x10^8 m/s to the right, while particle B is stationary with a mass of 4kg. After the collision, particle A moves to the left with an unknown velocity (v), and particle B moves to the right with a velocity of 1x10^7 m/s. The discussion centers around the sign convention used for the velocities and the calculation of v.

Discussion Character

  • Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the sign convention for velocities, particularly questioning whether the calculated value of v should be negative since particle A moves to the left. Some participants suggest that the problem may contain an error regarding the direction of motion after the collision.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the sign convention in the context of momentum calculations. Some participants have verified the problem with an instructor, indicating a potential error in the question's setup. Multiple interpretations of the velocities and their signs are being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the phrasing of velocities can lead to confusion, as different representations (e.g., "left at 7m/s" vs. "-7m/s") may imply the same physical direction but differ in notation. This highlights the importance of clarity in problem statements.

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Homework Statement


Particle A has a mass of 1kg and velocity 2x10^8m/s to the right and collides with a stationary particle B that has a mass of 4kg. after the collision, particle A moves to the left with a velocity(v) and particle B moves to the right with a velocity of 1x10^7 m/s. calcuate the value of 'v'.
i get a value of 1.6x10^8 for v but shouldn't it be -1.6x10^8 as it is moving to the left?

The thing is, in other collisions where two objects moving towards each other collide and then move apart after the collision, the answer justifies the direction just fine. for example...

An example: Particle C has a mass of 1kg and velocity 2x10^8 m/s to the right and collides with particle D that has a mass of 4kg and is moving to the left at 1.5x10^8 m/s. after the collision, particle C moves to the left with a velocity(v) and particle D moves to the right with a velocity of 2x10^7 m/s. calcuate the value of 'v'.
solution: (2x10^8 x 1) + [4 x (-1.5x10^8) ] = (1x v) + (4x 2x10^7)
v= -0.48x10^9(here the answer justifies the direction)

Homework Equations

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momentum before collision= momentum after collision

The Attempt at a Solution


momentum before collision= momentum after collision
(2x10^8 x 1) + (4x0) = (1xv) + (1x10^7 x 4)
v= 1.6x10^8

 
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Fariaz Haque said:
i get a value of 1.6x10^8 for v ...

This looks like a relativistic collision because the projectile particle travels at (2/3)c. Are you studying relativity?
 
kuruman said:
This looks like a relativistic collision because the projectile particle travels at (2/3)c. Are you studying relativity?

nope... just a simple momentum question that was given at school...
 
Fariaz Haque said:
i get a value of 1.6x10^8 for v
Quite so. Both particles will move to the right. There must be an error in the question.
 
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haruspex said:
Quite so. Both particles will move to the right. There must be an error in the question.

Indeed. Asked my teacher today and verified the problem! :)
 
Context.

Left at 7m/s
Left, at -7m/s (note comma)

can mean the same thing. The first one is 7m/s leftwards, the second is -7m/s along an implied left-to-right horizontal axis (x) - the "left" is semi-redundant.

On the other hand proofreaders don't get paid much, so best not to make them work too hard if it can be avoided.
 
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