Sign of Levi-Civita Symbol in spherical coordinates

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The discussion focuses on the sign change of the Levi-Civita symbol during coordinate transformations from Cartesian to spherical coordinates in the context of deriving an instanton solution in 4D Euclidean space, specifically referencing Srednicki's Chapter 93. It is established that while \(\epsilon^{1234}=+1\) in Cartesian coordinates, the transformation leads to \(\epsilon^{\rho \chi \psi \phi}=-1\) in spherical coordinates due to the Jacobian determinant being negative. The participants clarify the calculation of the Jacobian, which is \(\rho^3 \sin^2 \chi \sin \psi\), and discuss the implications for transitioning between equations 93.16 and 93.17.

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Hi, I am going through the derivation of an instanton solution (n=1) in Srednicki Chp. 93.

Specifically, I went through eqn.s 93.29-93.38.
However the sign of the Levi-Civita Symbol is bugging me:

It says that in 4D Euclidean space,
\epsilon^{1234}=+1 in Cartesian coordinates
implies
\epsilon^{\rho \chi \psi \phi}=-1
in spherical coordinates
below eqn 93.17, by computing the Jacobian of coordinate change.
But from my calculation, the Jacobian is positive, simply
\rho^3 sin^2 \chi sin\psi

In the simplest case, e.g. 2D or 3D, it seems to me that the Levi-Civita symbol doesn't change sign either under this coordinate transformation.
Can anyone explain why the sign of the Levi-Civita symbol is changed?

Thanks!
 
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Your Jacobian should be...

J = \begin{pmatrix} \sin \chi ~ \sin \psi ~ \cos \phi & \rho \cos \chi ~ \sin \psi ~ \cos \phi & \rho \sin \chi ~ \cos \psi ~ \cos \phi& - \rho \sin \chi ~ \sin \psi ~ \sin \phi \\ \sin \chi~ \sin \psi~ \sin \phi & \rho \cos \chi~ \sin \psi~ \sin \phi & \rho \sin \chi~ \cos \psi~ \sin \phi & \rho \sin \chi~ \sin \psi~ \cos \phi \\ \sin \chi ~ \cos \psi & \rho \cos \chi ~ \cos \psi & - \rho \sin \chi ~ \sin \psi & 0 \\ \cos \chi & -\rho \sin \chi & 0 & 0 \end{pmatrix}

Then, are you sure about your calculated determinant? Because I found:

- \rho^3 \sin \psi ~ \sin^2 \chi

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Ahh right, now I got it. Thanks a lot
 
Followup question:
I am struggling to move from eq. 93.16 to 93.17.
Now that

n=\frac{1}{16 \pi^2} \int d^4x Tr(F_{\mu \nu}\tilde{F}^{\mu \nu})
=\frac{1}{16 \pi^2} \int d^4x \partial _\mu Tr(\epsilon^{\mu \nu \sigma \tau} (A_\nu F_{\sigma \tau}+\frac{2i}{3} A_\nu A_\sigma A_\tau))
\equiv \frac{1}{16 \pi^2} \int d^4x \partial _\mu Tr(\epsilon^{\mu \nu \sigma \tau} K_{\nu \sigma \tau})
n=\frac{1}{16 \pi^2} \int dS_\mu Tr(\epsilon^{\mu \nu \sigma \tau} K_{\nu \sigma \tau})
This is eq. 93.17.
So,
n=\frac{1}{16 \pi^2} \int (abs|J|) d\rho d\chi d\psi d\phi (\frac{1}{-(abs|J|)} \epsilon^{\delta \alpha \beta \gamma}) \partial_\delta Tr(K_{ \alpha \beta \gamma})
=\frac{-1}{16 \pi^2} \int d\rho d\chi d\psi d\phi ~ \epsilon^{\delta \alpha \beta \gamma} \partial_\delta Tr(K_{ \alpha \beta \gamma})
where \alpha, \beta, \gamma, \delta are spherical coordinates
abs(|J|)\equiv<br /> + \rho^3 \sin \psi ~ \sin^2 \chi<br />
But how precisely should I do the final step of changing the volume integral to surface integral to get 93.16?
I know by divergence theorem, but it seems to me that
from
\epsilon^{\delta \alpha \beta \gamma}
\epsilon^{\rho \chi \psi \phi}=-1
to
\epsilon^{\alpha \beta \gamma}
\epsilon^{\chi \psi \phi}=+1

Eq. 93.16 is:
n=\frac{-1}{16 \pi^2} \int d\chi d\psi d\phi ~ \epsilon^{\alpha \beta \gamma} Tr(K_{ \alpha \beta \gamma})

the minus sign from the previous step gets canceled out, giving no minus sign in the end (93.16).
Can you illustrate how to do it?
Thanks
 
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