Significance of (1+1/x)^x as x->-inf

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The discussion revolves around the significance of the expression (1+1/x)^x as x approaches negative infinity. Participants explore its mathematical implications, particularly in the context of continuous compounding in finance, while also questioning its practical or scientific relevance.

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  • Some participants inquire about the practical or scientific significance of (1+1/x)^x as x approaches negative infinity.
  • Others present a mathematical derivation showing that as x approaches negative infinity, (1+1/x)^x approaches e, referencing continuous compounding in finance.
  • Some participants emphasize that the sign of x does not affect the limit, suggesting that the mathematical behavior remains consistent regardless of the direction of infinity.
  • A later reply clarifies that while the derivation is understood, the original question pertains to the practical meaning of the limit as x approaches negative infinity, rather than the mathematical result itself.
  • Participants also discuss the balance reduction in a financial context, relating it to the expression in question.

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There is no consensus on the practical significance of (1+1/x)^x as x approaches negative infinity. While mathematical interpretations are presented, the relevance of these interpretations in practical scenarios remains contested.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the implications of the limit as x approaches negative infinity, particularly in practical applications, and highlight the need for clarity on this aspect.

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Any practical or scientific significance of (1+1/x)^x as x->-inf?
 
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feynman1 said:
Any practical or scientific significance of (1+1/x)^x as x->-inf?

If interest of r APR is compounded monthly, then after t years the balance of the account will be \left(1 + \frac{r}{12}\right)^{12t}. Now imagine that interest is instead compounded every 1/nth of a year. Then after t years the balance is \left(1 + \frac{r}{n}\right)^{nt}. Now take the limit as n \to \infty. This is known as "continuous compounding" and after t years the balance of the account is e^{rt}.
 
pasmith said:
If interest of r APR is compounded monthly, then after t years the balance of the account will be \left(1 + \frac{r}{12}\right)^{12t}. Now imagine that interest is instead compounded every 1/nth of a year. Then after t years the balance is \left(1 + \frac{r}{n}\right)^{nt}. Now take the limit as n \to \infty. This is known as "continuous compounding" and after t years the balance of the account is e^{rt}.
x->-inf
 
The sign doesn't matter.
feynman1 said:
x->-inf
\begin{align*}
\left(1+\dfrac{1}{x}\right)^x&=\left(1-\dfrac{1}{|x|}\right)^{-|x|}
=\left(\dfrac{1}{1-\dfrac{1}{|x|}}\right)^{|x|}=\left(\dfrac{|x|}{|x|-1}\right)^{|x|}\\
&=\left(1+\dfrac{1}{|x|}+\dfrac{1}{|x|^2}+\ldots\right)^{|x|}\stackrel{|x|\to\infty }{\longrightarrow }\lim_{|x|\to\infty }\left(1+\dfrac{1}{|x|}\right)^{|x|}=e
\end{align*}
 
fresh_42 said:
The sign doesn't matter.

\begin{align*}
\left(1+\dfrac{1}{x}\right)^x&=\left(1-\dfrac{1}{|x|}\right)^{-|x|}
=\left(\dfrac{1}{1-\dfrac{1}{|x|}}\right)^{|x|}=\left(\dfrac{|x|}{|x|-1}\right)^{|x|}\\
&=\left(1+\dfrac{1}{|x|}+\dfrac{1}{|x|^2}+\ldots\right)^{|x|}\stackrel{|x|\to\infty }{\longrightarrow }\lim_{|x|\to\infty }\left(1+\dfrac{1}{|x|}\right)^{|x|}=e
\end{align*}
the derivation was known, but was asking about the practical meaning of -inf, not maths
 
feynman1 said:
x->-inf

If you reduce the balance by r/n every 1/n years then the balance is <br /> \left(1 - \frac{r}{n}\right)^{n} = \left(1 + \frac rn\right)^{-n}.
 
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