Significance of En-route Masters?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the significance of obtaining an "en-route" Master's degree while pursuing a Ph.D. in Optical Science & Engineering. Participants explore the implications of this decision on future job prospects and the value of the Master's degree in relation to the Ph.D.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares their advisor's perspective that an en-route M.S. is not valued if it is in the same field as the Ph.D., suggesting that time spent on the M.S. could be better used for research and publications.
  • Another participant agrees with the advisor's claim, emphasizing that employers typically do not consider the Master's degree if the Ph.D. is obtained.
  • A third participant reinforces this view, stating that their employer is likely unaware of their Master's degree, indicating a lack of importance in the job market.
  • In response, the original poster clarifies that they are not dismissing their advisor's advice but are seeking additional perspectives from those with experience outside academia.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the Master's degree may not hold significant value compared to the Ph.D. in the job market. However, the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best course of action for the original poster, as they seek varied opinions and experiences.

Contextual Notes

Participants express differing views on the relevance of the Master's degree based on their experiences, with some emphasizing academic perspectives while others highlight practical job market considerations.

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Significance of "En-route" Masters?

I am a first year Ph.D. student in Optical Science & Engineering. I have a B.S. Physics (Honors). I started doing research in Jan. of 2009. I started the Ph.D. program in Jan. of 2011. Currently I am still doing research for the same Prof. I started with in 2009 (I plan to stay with his group). He is suggesting that I should NOT get my en-route M.S. in Optical Sci. & Engr. I have published 6 conference proceeding, an extended abstract, and I am currently writing my first journal paper and just submitted another abstract for a conference proceeding. His claim is that no one really considers your M.S. if it is the same as your Ph.D. I would select the non-thesis option M.S. which would require me to take 3 more courses (I have 6 courses left for my Ph.D.). He says that I could spend the time that I would spend for those courses earning my M.S. doing research. And the more publications and research experience I have the better chance I have of obtaining the job I want when I get out of school.

My main concern is getting a job when I get out of school. I do not care whether I not I have my Masters (as long as I have my Ph.D.) I just want to do whatever will give me a better chance of getting a job. Any advice?
 
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fermatsenigma said:
His claim is that no one really considers your M.S. if it is the same as your Ph.D.

His claim is correct.

My main concern is getting a job when I get out of school. I do not care whether I not I have my Masters (as long as I have my Ph.D.) I just want to do whatever will give me a better chance of getting a job. Any advice?

My advice is listen to your prof. He knows more about the bureaucracy of your university than either of us. If you get your Ph.D., no one will care about your Masters, and if you don't, no one will care about which Masters you got.
 


Your advisor is right (and even if he weren't, would you really take the advice of some guys on the internet over his?). Nobody cares. I'm not sure my present employer even knows that I have an MS as well as a PhD.
 


I never said I was taking "the advice of some guys on the internet over his?". I do not believe I ever implied that. He is very knowledgeable about the academic sector, however, he has no experience outside of academia. So I thought I would post it on a forum in a related field where there are probably people who have worked outside of academia. That seemed logical at the time lol. I was hoping someone may have encountered a similar problem and now have a well delineated opinion that I could consider and potentially discuss my concerns with my adviser.
 

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