Simple Algebra Division question

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of multiple divisions in algebraic expressions, specifically how to correctly simplify expressions like a/1 divided by b/1 divided by c/1. Participants explore the ambiguity that arises from the lack of parentheses and the implications of different interpretations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about whether a/1 divided by b/1 divided by c/1 simplifies to ac/b or a/bc.
  • Another participant asserts that the expression is ambiguous without parentheses to clarify the intended grouping.
  • Some participants suggest that a/(bc) is a reasonable interpretation, while others emphasize the importance of clarity in notation.
  • There is a discussion about the meaning of the backslash "\" in the context of fractions, with some participants clarifying that it was meant to represent division.
  • One participant notes that the placement of denominators does not affect the outcome if all denominators are 1.
  • A later reply mentions a general rule for resolving ambiguity by working from left to right, leading to a specific interpretation of the expression.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct interpretation of the expression. Multiple competing views remain regarding how to handle the ambiguity of multiple divisions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of using parentheses to avoid ambiguity in mathematical expressions, but there is no agreement on a definitive method for interpreting the expressions discussed.

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Hello,

I am not grasping how to deal with multiple divisions properly.

If I have a/1 divided by b/1 divided by c/1

How do I know if the compressed form is ac/b or a/bc?
 
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It's simple: you don't.
 
a/bc
 
What poster #2 is saying, is that (a/b)/c is not equal to a/(b/c). So talking about a/b/c, without properly using parenthesis to tell which of the two cases is meant, is simply ambiguous.
 
i would have chosen a/(bc) as what was meant, but i see the problem.
 
Is it ever possible to be working on a problem and end up with a\b\c?
 
a/b/c are just written-down symbols that stand for an idea on your mind; if you work on a problem and get that result, in your mind you'll know what you mean (if you're not insane). Now, other people won't understand you unless you use parenthesis, or write something more graphical like \frac {a/b}{c} or \frac {a}{b/c}.
 
I think what this problem is lacking is parentheses! ( )
 
DeepGround said:
Hello,

I am not grasping how to deal with multiple divisions properly.

If I have a/1 divided by b/1 divided by c/1

How do I know if the compressed form is ac/b or a/bc?
Is a/1= a, b/1= b, c/1= c? If so why write it that way?

DeepGround said:
Is it ever possible to be working on a problem and end up with a\b\c?
What does "\" mean here?
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Is a/1= a, b/1= b, c/1= c? If so why write it that way?


What does "\" mean here?


To specify that all variables are already a fraction. Some math texts show a/b/1 is a/b and a/1/b is ab/1

I meant / by "\"
 
  • #11
a/b/1 can be interpreted as (a/b)/1= a/b or a/(b/1)= a/b so that's not a problem. a/1/b could be interpreted as (a/1)/b= a/b or a/(1/b)= ab. That's a problem.

It really doesn't matter whether a or b are "already" fractions.
 
  • #12
DeepGround said:
To specify that all variables are already a fraction. Some math texts show a/b/1 is a/b and a/1/b is ab/1

I meant / by "\"

Oh wow, I just figured out where I went wrong, now I see how it does not matter where the main division is located because the if all denominators are 1 then it doesn't matter if you multiply the 1 by the numberator or the denominator.
 
  • #13
I thought the general rule for an ambiguous case was to work from left to right and which would be ((a/1)/(b/1))/(c/1) = a/bc.
 

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