Simple Geometric Proof: Inscribed Triangle in a Circle of Diameter d

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The discussion revolves around the geometric proof of an inscribed triangle within a circle of diameter d, specifically focusing on whether such a triangle is always right-angled. Participants explore various properties of angles in circles, theorems related to inscribed angles, and the implications of having a hypotenuse defined by the diameter.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that if a triangle is inscribed in a circle with hypotenuse d, it must be right-angled, but expresses uncertainty in their proof.
  • Another participant argues that only right-angled triangles have a hypotenuse, implying that the triangle must be right-angled by definition, but acknowledges the possibility of inscribing non-right-angled triangles.
  • A participant references the classical theorem that states the angle subtended by a diameter at the circumference is a right angle, suggesting this as a basis for the proof.
  • Some participants discuss the inscribed angle theorem, stating that an inscribed angle is half the measure of the central angle, leading to the conclusion that an angle opposite a diameter measures 90 degrees.
  • Another participant provides a geometric proof involving isosceles triangles formed by the center of the circle and the vertices of the inscribed triangle, concluding that the angles sum to 90 degrees.
  • There is a mention of alternative proofs and a participant expresses appreciation for the different approaches presented.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the proof's validity, with some supporting the idea that the triangle is right-angled based on established theorems, while others question the initial assumptions and definitions presented.

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Participants reference various geometric theorems and properties without resolving the dependencies on definitions or theorems that may not have been established in their discussion.

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Consider a circle of diameter d.

Inscribe a triangle within the circle so that the triangle has hypotenuse d.

Prove that this triangle is always right angled.

If we define the 3 points on the circumference of the circle that define the triangle as A B and C such that |AC| = d then we have AB + BC = AC

Also define the angle at C to be σ

The right angle is at point B thus we need

(AB).(BC) = 0

now AB = AC - BC

thus (AB).(BC) = (AC - BC).(BC) = (AC).(BC) - |BC|^2 = |AC||BC|cos(σ) - |BC|^2

= |BC|(|AC|cos(σ) - |BC|)

now this is equal to 0 if and only if |BC| = |AC|cos(σ) however this is only true if and only if ABC is a right angled triangle so I haven't really proved it :/

any suggestions?
 
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Inscribe a triangle within the circle so that the triangle has hypotenuse d.

Prove that this triangle is always right angled.

What are you getting at?

Only right angled triangles have a hypotenuse. So by definition your triangle is right angled.

However you can easily inscribe a non right angled triangle (that does not therefore have a hypotenuse).



What you are trying to describe and prove is more conventionally described as the angle on a semicircle - which is always a right angle.

The actual proof you use must depend upon the way your geometry has built up ie what theorems have already been proved and are therefore available for use.

The original proof used by Euclid, who was not into trogonometry, was based on the theorem that the angle subtended by a chord to the centre is twice the angle subtended to the circumference. Do you have this theorem?
 
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One basic property of angles and circles is that the measure of an angle inscribed in a circle is 1/2 the measure of the arc it cuts off. If one side of an inscribed triangle is a diameter of the cirle, then the opposite angle cuts off an arc of 180 degrees and so its measure is 90 degrees.
 
HallsofIvy said:
One basic property of angles and circles is that the measure of an angle inscribed in a circle is 1/2 the measure of the arc it cuts off. If one side of an inscribed triangle is a diameter of the cirle, then the opposite angle cuts off an arc of 180 degrees and so its measure is 90 degrees.


What do you mean by the measure of an angle? I don't really follow your argument
 
What do you mean by the measure of an angle? I don't really follow your argument

That's just a modern posh way to say what Euclid said.
 
Proving your special case of the general theorem is easy. With your notation of A B and C, let the center of the circle be O.

Triangle AOB is isosceles. Let angle OAB = angle OBA = x.
Triangle BOC is also isosceles. Let angle OBC = angle OCB = y.
Angle ABC = x + y.
The sum of the angles of triangle ABC = 2x + 2y = 180 degrees, so x + y = 90.
 
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AlephZero said:
Proving your special case of the general theorem is easy. With your notation of A B and C, let the center of the circle be O.

Triangle AOB is isosceles. Let angle OAB = angle OBA = x.
Triangle BOC is also isosceles. Let angle OBC = angle OCB = y.
Angle ABC = x + y.
The sum of the angles of triangle ABC = 2x + 2y = 180 degrees, so x + y = 90.
That's a really nice proof! I didn't realize there was an alternative to the one Hallsofivy cited.
 

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