Simple Kinematics Problem, unsure of my error

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving an object launched vertically with an initial velocity of 20 m/s, aiming to determine the time taken to reach its maximum height without air resistance.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of conservation of energy to find maximum height and then apply kinematic equations to determine time. Questions arise regarding the validity of the calculations and the relationship between height and time.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered alternative approaches, suggesting the use of kinematic equations instead of energy conservation. There is an ongoing examination of the calculations related to maximum height and time, with some participants questioning the accuracy of the initial height calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential errors in calculations and the importance of correctly applying formulas, particularly regarding the use of parentheses in mathematical expressions. There is a mention of a possible calculator error affecting the initial results.

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Homework Statement


Object launched vertically with v initial =20 m/s. No air resistance. How long does it take to reach its max height?

Homework Equations


1/2 at^2 + volt = dy
.5mv^2=mgh

The Attempt at a Solution


I began by using conservation of energy to find the max height. .5mv^2 = mgh
h=(v^2)/2g = 91.74 m
I use that number to solve for t using the quadratic formula.
1/2(-9.81)t^2 + 20t - 91.74 = 0
Using the quadratic formula with this equation gives me imaginary solutions and I'm unsure what error I've made that leads to that.
 
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N8G said:

Homework Statement


Object launched vertically with v initial =20 m/s. No air resistance. How long does it take to reach its max height?

Homework Equations


1/2 at^2 + volt = dy
.5mv^2=mgh

The Attempt at a Solution


I began by using conservation of energy to find the max height. .5mv^2 = mgh
h=(v^2)/2g = 91.74 m
I use that number to solve for t using the quadratic formula.
1/2(-9.81)t^2 + 20t - 91.74 = 0
Using the quadratic formula with this equation gives me imaginary solutions and I'm unsure what error I've made that leads to that.

There is a simpler way of doing this problem .

What is the velocity of object on reaching the maximum height ?

Can you think of a kinematic equation relating initial velocity , final velocity and time ?
 
conscience said:
Welcome to PF !
There is a simpler way of doing this problem .

What is the velocity of object on reaching the maximum height ?

Can you think of a kinematic equation relating initial velocity , final velocity and time ?

Yeah, I know that vf = vo +at however that gives me 0 = 20 + (-9.81)t and solving for t gives me a time of 2.039 seconds. However the work that I had already done with energy conservation told me that the max height of the object, that coincides with the point at which its velocity becomes zero, is 91.74 meters. With an initial velocity of 20 m/s, and only traveling for 2.039 sec, the object would never reach 90 meters without accelerating. I just don't understand my error.
 
N8G said:
h=(v^2)/2g = 91.74 m
Check this calculation. If g is in the denominator, then you should use parentheses in the denominator: h=v2/(2g)
 
N8G said:
the max height of the object, that coincides with the point at which its velocity becomes zero, is 91.74 meters.

Check your calculations .
 
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(v^2)/(2g) = 400/(2*9.81) = approximately 20

Okay awesome. I must've made an egregious calculator error in the beginning. Thank you!
 

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