Simple Proof for A-H Array Puzzle

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The discussion revolves around a puzzle involving arranging the letters A-H in a 2 by 4 array such that no letter is adjacent or diagonal to a letter that is one unit different. Participants explore the implications of this arrangement using modular arithmetic and present various proofs and assumptions regarding the feasibility of such an arrangement.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that using modular logic, it can be proven that H must be adjacent to A, implying that it is impossible to arrange the numbers 1-8 in the specified manner without violating the adjacency condition.
  • Another participant proposes a proof based on the arrangement of numbers in the boxes, indicating that each number has two neighboring numbers differing by 1, leading to a contradiction when trying to fill the boxes without adjacency.
  • Several participants assume the possibility of the arrangement and derive that every 2x2 square must contain numbers with a minimum gap of 2, concluding that all numbers must share the same parity, which leads to a contradiction.
  • One participant elaborates that a 2x2 square can only contain either even or odd numbers, and with three such squares in a 2 by 4 array, this results in a contradiction due to the limited sets of numbers available.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of the arrangement, with some providing proofs that suggest contradictions arise under certain assumptions, while others explore the implications of modular arithmetic without reaching a consensus on the overall possibility of the arrangement.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the arrangement and the properties of numbers in the context of modular arithmetic, but these assumptions are not universally accepted or resolved among participants.

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I was doing a brain treaser where the letters A-H had to be put into an array 2 by 4 such that no letter is adjacent or diagonal to a letter one unit different. That is a C can't be above, below, to one side of, or diagonal from a B or D. I solved the problem but the thought occurred to me that using modular logic it can easily be proven that the H has to be above,below,to one side of, or diagonal to the A. In other words, it is immposible to put the numbers 1-8 into an 2 by 4 square box array, such that where each every set of boxes that touch either by a side
or corner the difference between the 2 boxes mod 8 is more than 1. Does anyone care to give a simple proof?
 
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ramsey2879 said:
I was doing a brain treaser where the letters A-H had to be put into an array 2 by 4 such that no letter is adjacent or diagonal to a letter one unit different. That is a C can't be above, below, to one side of, or diagonal from a B or D. I solved the problem but the thought occurred to me that using modular logic it can easily be proven that the H has to be above,below,to one side of, or diagonal to the A. In other words, it is immposible to put the numbers 1-8 into an 2 by 4 square box array, such that where each every set of boxes that touch either by a side
or corner the difference between the 2 boxes mod 8 is more than 1. Does anyone care to give a simple proof?
Proof:let the two rows of boxes be numbered 1-2 and the 4 boxes on each row be numbered 1-4. If the boxes are filled with numbers 0-7, each number except the 0 and seven have two neighboring numbers which differed by 1, but the numbers in boxes (1,2) and (2,2) both touch all boxes but (1,4) and (2,4). Mod 8 each number has two neighbors, if the numbers in boxes (1,2) and (2,2) share a neighbor, there are still three numbers but only two boxes to fill. Thus it is impossible to fill the 8 boxes with numbers 0-7 so that no two touching boxes have a neighboring numbers in the boxes. But mod 9, 0 is not a neighbor to 7, thus 0 and 2 can be placed in boxes (1,2) and (2,2) and the two neighbors, 1 and 3 can be placed in boxes (1,4) and (2,4). Likewise, 7 and 5, can be placed in boxes (2,3) and (1,3) and the two neighbors, 4 and 6 can be placed in boxes (1,1) and (2,1). 0 corresponds to "A" and 7 corresponds to "H".
 
Assume it is possible. Then every 2x2 square must be filled with numbers, no two of which are consecutive mod 8. Since the square contains 4 numbers, and the 4 gaps between the numbers are all at least 2, and sum to 8, we conclude that all the numbers in the square have the same parity, which then also holds for the entire array, and we have a contradiction.
 
Norwegian said:
Assume it is possible. Then every 2x2 square must be filled with numbers, no two of which are consecutive mod 8. Since the square contains 4 numbers, and the 4 gaps between the numbers are all at least 2, and sum to 8, we conclude that all the numbers in the square have the same parity, which then also holds for the entire array, and we have a contradiction.
In other words, a 2X2 square must have only the numbers 0,2,4,6 or 1,3,5,7 since there is always a 3 gap difference between the smallest and largest number. However, when you note that there are 3 such 2 by 2 squares in a 2 by 4 array and only 2 possible sets of 4, then you have a contridiction. Thanks
 
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