Simple Quadratic Factor question

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The discussion revolves around solving the quadratic equation y = -x^2 + 5x + 6, specifically focusing on finding the coordinates of the vertex of the curve through factorization and completing the square methods. Participants explore different approaches and arithmetic involved in the calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant attempts to factor the quadratic and calculates the vertex using the symmetry of the curve, arriving at an initial answer of 99/4, which they question.
  • Another participant identifies an arithmetic error in the vertex calculation, suggesting the correct evaluation yields 49/4 instead.
  • A third participant confirms the corrected answer and provides a breakdown of the arithmetic involved in the calculations.
  • Another participant introduces an alternative method of completing the square, leading to the same vertex coordinates of (5/2, 49/4).
  • There is a mention of a discrepancy with an answer from a book, which claims the vertex's y-coordinate is 29/4, leading to further discussion about the correctness of the book's answer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the correct calculation of the vertex coordinates as (5/2, 49/4) after correcting arithmetic errors. However, there is disagreement regarding the answer provided in the book, which some participants believe is incorrect.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the initial factorization approach and the arithmetic steps taken by the first participant, which led to confusion about the vertex's coordinates.

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okay i need to solve the quadratic y = -x^2 + 5x + 6 and need to find the coordinates of the vertex of the curve

by factorising

y = -(x^2 - 5x - 5)
y = -(x + 1)(x - 6)

so when y = 0, x = -1 and x = 6 (that parts simple)
..............
At the vertex x = (-1 + 6) / 2 = 5/2 (as the curve is symetrical)

so as y = -x^2 + 5x + 6

y = -5/2^2 + 5(-5/2) + 6
y = 25/4 + 50/4 + 24/4
y = 99/4

(this is the answer i got which doesn't look right, and answer book gives a different answer)

can u tell me where i went wrong? thanx
 
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y = -5/2^2 + 5(-5/2) + 6
y = 25/4 + 50/4 + 24/4
First line should read -(5/2)^2+5(5/2)+6
Second line should read -25/4+50/4+24/4
Result y=49/4
I suggest you carefully check your arithmetic before posting.
 
thanx i got that answer too, wasn't sure which way to work it out, the negative sign threw me a bit, the book is wrong then as i thought, they have 29/4 for their answer!

thanx for ur help
 
mathman is right & here's why:
-5/2*5/2=-25/4 because -1*1=-1
5 * 5/2 = 25/2 = 50/4
6 = 24/4
50 + 24 - 25 = 50 - 1 = 49/4
There's your answer
 
You can also do this by completing the square:
y= -x2+ 5x+ 6= -(x2- 5x)+ 6
= -(x2- 5x+ 25/4- 25/4)+ 6
= -(x- 5/2)2+ 25/4+ 6
= -(x- 5/2)2+ 25/4+ 24/4
= -(x- 5/2)2+ 49/4

The vertex is at (5/2, 49/4).
 

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