Simple (?) solving of equations re Tunneling

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The discussion revolves around solving equations related to quantum tunneling, specifically focusing on the relationship between coefficients A and F in the context of wavefunctions for an electron approaching a potential barrier. The original poster seeks clarification on deriving A/F from the provided equations.

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  • Participants discuss the wavefunctions associated with an electron encountering a potential barrier, including the incident, tunneling, and exiting wavefunctions. There are attempts to derive the relationship between A and F, with some participants also exploring the reflection coefficient B^2/A^2.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing context and equations related to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the derivation process, but there is no explicit consensus on how to solve for A/F. Multiple interpretations and approaches are being explored.

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There is mention of the complexity of the problem, and one participant notes that the derivation for A/F is more complicated than it initially appears. Additionally, there is a reference to the approximation involved in dealing with the Coulomb barrier.

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Revising for my exams, stuck on how to do this:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/mr15.jpg/

please could someone tell me how to get (A/F)?

thanks for any help!

it's not a homework question, just revision so a direct solution would be more than welcome.
 
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A bit more context would be good!
 
vanhees71 said:
A bit more context would be good!

Hi, not sure what you mean, they get A/F from those equations.

If you mean where did they come from, it's an electron approaching a potential barrier and tunneling through it. there are 3 equations for the wavefunction, the incident electron (which has approaching and reflection componants), the tunelling wavefunction, which has a wavefunction with a potential componant (and also a reflective componant), and the exiting electron which has no reflective componant.

approaching the barrier the soln of PSI is:

PSI 1 = A exp ik1x + B exp -k1x

inside the barrier the soln of PSI is:

PSI 2 = C exp -k2x + D exp k2x

where k = sqrt(2m(E-U)) / h-bar

leaving the barrier

PSI 3 = F exp ik1x

at the boundary of the barrier PSI 1 = PSI 2 . thus differential of PSI 1 = differential of PSI 2

at the other boundary of the barrier PSI 2 = PSI 3 . thus differential of PSI 2 = differential of PSI 3

this is where the terms in the photo come from.

know where the terms come from, just don't know how to solve for A / F
 
ok this is more complicated than it looks lol

an equally good derivation is for B^2 / A^2 which is the reflection coefficient, if A / F comes up in the exam I am buggered, but i did figure it for B^2 / A^2

here are the steps:

do k2 X [1] + [2] to give [6]
do k2 X [1] - [2] to give [7]

sub [3] into [4] for F exp ik1L to give [8]

put [6] and [7] for D and C into [8] to give [9]

divide through by B, rearrange and take the modulus

QED.
 
derivation for A/F in detail here!

http://lynx.uio.no/trine/fys3510/alpha_transmission_eng.pdf
 
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Note that this is only an approximation for the Coulomb barrier. The Coulomb potential has no plane waves as asymptotic states!
 

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