Simplifying Expressions with Negative Signs: Understanding Parentheses and Signs

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The discussion revolves around simplifying algebraic expressions involving negative signs and parentheses, specifically the expression a + 2b - (-a + b). Participants are exploring the correct application of the distributive property and the handling of negative signs in algebra.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to simplify the expression by removing parentheses and applying negative signs. Questions arise regarding the correct interpretation of the negative sign in front of the parentheses and how it affects the terms inside.

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There is an active exploration of the steps involved in simplifying the expression, with some participants providing guidance on the distributive property. Multiple interpretations of the simplification process are being discussed, and while there is no explicit consensus, participants are engaging in productive reasoning.

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Participants are working under the assumption that they need to simplify the expression correctly according to algebraic rules, and there is a recognition of potential confusion around the handling of negative signs.

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Silly question but this kind of threw me:

a + 2b - (-a + b) =

So, when you remove the parantheses, you change the sign. So I figured it would go like this:

a + 2b - a - b = b

(by this logic: - (-a + b) = - +a -b = -a -b)

But my books says

a + 2b + a - b = 2a + b

I'm guessing the book is right, but where am I stepping wrong?

k
 
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You are basically looking to expand [itex]-1\cdot(-a+b)=(-1)(-a)+(-1)(b)[/itex]

Can you simplify this?
 
I thought I did, but it seems I don't :/

(-1)(-a) + (-1)(b) = a + (-b) = a + b

k
 
You got real close. You correctly figured that (-1)(-a) amounts to the 'a'
So look close at (-1)(b), and note that you think it amounts to 'b', which is wrong!
(-1)(-a) + (-1)(b) = a + (-b) = a + b
is what you were thinking

(-1)(-a) + (-1)(b) = a + (-b) = a - b is what I am thinking.

OK - so you now know that a minus sign in front of anything, (even stuff in brackets) is like saying it is multiplied by -1. Now move on and get it all quicker like this... start again... Take it from the left.
a + 2b - (-a + b)

There's a+2b which we leave alone for now. Work on the -(-a+b)

Think "two minusus multiplied out make a plus" so the first term will be 'a'
Now make the minus sign outside the work on the next term inside.
Ahh, its a minus times a plus, which makes a minus. That results in -b
Put them together. You get a - b

Now finally bring back the a + 2b, and you get a + 2b + a - b

I leave it to you to finally push the a's and b's together, and come up with the final simplest expression.
 
(-1)(-a) + (-1)(b) = a + (-b) = a + b

Ugh, that was a nasty little typo, it is supposed to read = a - b.

Thanks for the responses, I appreciate it.

k
 

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