Simplifying Factorials: Rules and Examples

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The discussion focuses on simplifying complex factorial expressions and calculating their logarithms. A user seeks a method to simplify the factorial equation 297!/(98! * 199!) and expresses concerns about the lengthy calculations involved. They share a successful example using 310!/299!, which simplifies to a product of sequential numbers divided by 2!. The conversation highlights the utility of Stirling's approximation for large factorials and confirms that using a big number calculator can yield accurate results. Ultimately, the participants emphasize the importance of understanding factorial simplifications to streamline calculations.
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I need to figure out the following factorial

\frac{297!}{98! * 199!}

then take the logarithim of that

Is there a rule that I can use to simplify the equation and get the same result?

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I did another example where I used

\frac{310!}{2!*299!}
and I figured it out to be
(310*309*308*307*306*305*304*303*302*301*300) / 2!

but if i were to apply the same rule
I'd need to do 98 multiplications starting from 297 going down to 199
and that'd take way too long in my calculator. i.e 297*296*295...200 / 98!

please help, I need some rules to follow
i couldn't find any anywhere,
 
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Stirling's formula:

<br /> n! \approx \sqrt{2 \, \pi n} \left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^{n}, \ n &gt;&gt; 1<br />
 
Could you be more precise on what you mean by "figure out"?
 
Hurkyl said:
Could you be more precise on what you mean by "figure out"?



well I used a big number calculator that let's me use factorials up to 500!,

found out the answer to be 45.4 or something

then tried to replicate that answer on my normal calculator by guessing that

310!/299! is actually 300!*301!*...310!, then divided that by 2! which is equal to 2,

and it was the same answer, 45.4


thanks to that other guy,
I forgot about stirlings approximations :P
 
vorcil said:
well I used a big number calculator that let's me use factorials up to 500!,

found out the answer to be 45.4 or something

then tried to replicate that answer on my normal calculator by guessing that

310!/299! is actually 300!*301!*...310!, then divided that by 2! which is equal to 2,

and it was the same answer, 45.4
Probably a typo, but 310!/299! = [310*309*308*307*306*305*304*303*302*301*300*299!]/299!.

The 299! factors cancel and you're left with 310*309*308*307*306*305*304*303*302*301*300.
vorcil said:
thanks to that other guy,
I forgot about stirlings approximations :P
 

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