Simplifying Logarithmic Ratios: How Do You Do It?

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The discussion focuses on simplifying the logarithmic ratio (Ln (2x/y) / Ln (x/y)) = m/n. Participants emphasize the importance of logarithmic properties, specifically log(a/b) = log(a) - log(b) and log(ab) = log(a) + log(b). The final simplified form of the expression is established as 1 + (ln 2) / Ln (x/y). This conclusion is reached by applying the properties of logarithms correctly and cross-multiplying the initial equation.

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  • Understanding of natural logarithms (Ln)
  • Familiarity with logarithmic properties such as log(a/b) and log(ab)
  • Basic algebraic manipulation skills
  • Knowledge of cross-multiplication in equations
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how the heck do you simplify this ?

(Ln (2x/y) / Ln (x/y)) = m/n

HELP ME!
 
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Start by cross-multiplying, then apply what you know about the log of an exponential expression.
 
casanova2528 said:
how the heck do you simplify this ?

(Ln (2x/y) / Ln (x/y)) = m/n

HELP ME!

I am just going to elaborate a lill bit what marcusl already suggested.

You probbably know that

log\frac{x}{y}=log(x)-log(y)

Also

log(ab)=log(a)+log(b)

just apply these properties, and yu'll be fine.
 
Ln (2x/y) = Ln 2x - Ln y

Ln (x/y) = Ln x - Ln y

[Ln (2x/y) / Ln (x/y)] = (Ln 2x - Ln y) / (Ln x - Ln y)

what do I do now?
 
Well that wasn't how I interpreted the original hint. After cross-multiplying as already said, to n \log_e \left( \frac{2x}{y} \right) = m \log_e \left( \frac{x}{y} \right), I would have applied the exponential function to both sides and simplified.
 
Hell yeah.Gib Z is so right, my bad!
 
Gib Z said:
Well that wasn't how I interpreted the original hint. After cross-multiplying as already said, to n \log_e \left( \frac{2x}{y} \right) = m \log_e \left( \frac{x}{y} \right), I would have applied the exponential function to both sides and simplified.

that's not where I want to go.

basically, this natural log ratio reduces down to

1+ (ln 2)/Ln (X/Y)


how do you get here?
 
casanova2528, you started with an equation (note the equals sign), so I assume you meant to write : 1+ (ln 2)/Ln (X/Y) = m/n.

To get this you should use the property of logs that ln(2x/y) = ln(2) + ln(x/y). You should find it pretty easy from there.
 
uart said:
casanova2528, you started with an equation (note the equals sign), so I assume you meant to write : 1+ (ln 2)/Ln (X/Y) = m/n.

To get this you should use the property of logs that ln(2x/y) = ln(2) + ln(x/y). You should find it pretty easy from there.

thanks! Those darn properties!
 

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