Simulating Sub-Atomic Particles

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The discussion centers on creating a simulation of sub-atomic particles, specifically up and down quarks and electrons, on a 2D grid for entertainment purposes. The original poster (OP) seeks to visualize the interactions between these particles without delving into complex mathematical frameworks like partial differential equations (PDEs). Responses indicate that accurately simulating sub-atomic particles is highly complex due to the necessity of high-dimensional Schrödinger equations, making the OP's goal challenging. Participants suggest focusing on a more abstract simulation rather than attempting to replicate actual particle behavior.

PREREQUISITES
  • Basic understanding of particle physics concepts, specifically quarks and electrons.
  • Familiarity with programming for simulation development.
  • Knowledge of 2D grid systems for visual representation.
  • Awareness of quantum mechanics principles, particularly Schrödinger equations.
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  • Explore existing particle simulation frameworks such as Unity or Processing.
  • Research basic particle physics to understand quark interactions.
  • Learn about visualizing simulations using tools like p5.js or Three.js.
  • Investigate simplified models of atomic structure to inspire simulation design.
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This discussion is beneficial for programmers interested in creating visual simulations, educators looking for engaging ways to explain particle physics, and hobbyists exploring computational modeling without a deep mathematical background.

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I want to create a simulation (solely for entertainment, not for homework or research or anything) where up and down quarks along with electrons will be placed randomly on a 2d grid.

After that I would simulate the forces acting between the particles, and see if the quarks form protons and neutrons, then the protons, neutrons and electrons form atoms.

I'm not looking to code an accurate simulation, just something interesting to watch evolve. My background is in programming, not maths and physics, so I don't want to have to solve PDE's etc.

Are there any similar simulations which I could get some ideas from?

Any advice on how to approach this problem would be great :)
 
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Sam Kennedy said:
I'm not looking to code an accurate simulation, just something interesting to watch evolve. My background is in programming, not maths and physics, so I don't want to have to solve PDE's etc.

If that is the case then you won't really be simulating sub-atomic particles though, right? Just forget any tie to particles and code up your system how you like.
 
OP, I'm afraid what you seek is likely impossible. These are hard quantum systems, and they cannot be described with anything except for high-dimensional Schroedinger equations (the dimensionality grows with each particle). It is not even the sub-atomic part which makes this hard: It is already the case if you just consider atomic or molecular systems, i.e., just electrons the field of point-charge nuclei.
 

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