Sin3x = sinx Solve for x.

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The problem involves solving the equation sin(3x) = sin(x), which falls under the subject area of trigonometry. Participants are exploring various approaches to find the values of x that satisfy this equation.

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  • Some participants attempt to manipulate the equation using trigonometric identities and the sine addition formula. Others express confusion about the number of solutions obtained from graphing the equation compared to their algebraic findings. There are also discussions about the implications of the zero product property and the conditions under which sin(x) equals zero.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various methods and interpretations being explored. Some participants have suggested alternative approaches to solving the equation, while others are questioning the correctness of certain steps in the algebraic manipulation. No consensus has been reached, but multiple lines of reasoning are being examined.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of the problem, including the potential for multiple solutions and the implications of periodicity in trigonometric functions. There is an acknowledgment of the need to clarify assumptions made during the problem-solving process.

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okay this problem stumped me for a while but here is my work for it, and I just got stuck at the end so if any help can be provided thanks in advance.

sin3x = sinx

sin(2x + x) = sinx

sin2x cos x + cos2x sinx = sinx

2sinx cosx cosx + (2cos^2(x) -1) sinx = sinx

2sinx cos^2(x) + 2cos^2(x) sinx - sinx = sinx

2sinx cos^2(x) + 2cos^2(x) sinx - 2sinx = 0

2sinx (cos^2(x) + cos^2(x) - 2) = 0

2sinx (2cos^2(x) - 2) = 0

4sinx(cos^2(x) -1) = 0

4sinx(-sin^2(x)) = 0

4sinx = 0 , -sin^2x = 0

x = 0 , x = 0, pi, 2pi

Why is it when I graph the equation sin3x - sinx = 0 on my calculator, it comes with 7 solutions when i only have 3?
 
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sin(2x+x)-sinx=0

sin2xcosx + cos2xsinx-sinx = 0

2sinxcos^2 x + (cos^2 x - sin^2 x) sinx - sinx = 0

2sinxcos^2 x + cos^2xsinx - sin^3 x -sinx=0

sinx(2cos^2 x + cos^2 x - sin^2 x - 1) = 0

sinx(3cos^2x - sin^2x -1) =0

so u kno sinx= 0, thus 0, 180, and 360 degrees are three of the answers
then for inside parenthesis

3cos^2x - sin^2x - 1 = 0

3cos^2x - (1- cos^2x) - 1 = 0

3cos^2x - 1 + cos^2x - 1 = 0

4cos^2x - 2 = 0

cos^2x = 1/2

so u kno Cos^-1( plus/minus sq root of 2 / 2) = 45, 315, 35, 225 degrees

:zzz: loong problems, well sorta
 
2sinx (cos^2(x) + cos^2(x) - 2) = 0

should be

2sinx (cos^2(x) + cos^2(x) - 1) = 0
 
Oh okay thanks guys
 
smallbadwolf said:
sin3x = sinx

sin(2x + x) = sinx

sin2x cos x + cos2x sinx = sinx...

There is a much simpler method to solve problems like that.

If sin(x) = sin(y) then either

y=x=2k*pi

or y=(pi-x)+2k*pi,

where k is integer (zero included).

y=3x now, so either

3x=x+2k*pi --> x = k*pi

or

3x=(2k+1)*pi -x -->x=(2k+1)*pi/4

ehild
 
Maybe you already know this, but just in case, sin[m * pi] = 0 for all m. So, x=m*pi for all m satisfies the (trivial) equation:
sin[m*pi] = sin[3*m*pi] = 0

--
edit: where m is an integer.
 
smallbadwolf said:
okay this problem stumped me for a while but here is my work for it, and I just got stuck at the end so if any help can be provided thanks in advance.

sin3x = sinx

sin(2x + x) = sinx

sin2x cos x + cos2x sinx = sinx

2sinx cosx cosx + (2cos^2(x) -1) sinx = sinx

2sinx cos^2(x) + 2cos^2(x) sinx - sinx = sinx

2sinx cos^2(x) + 2cos^2(x) sinx - 2sinx = 0

2sinx (cos^2(x) + cos^2(x) - 2) = 0

2sinx (2cos^2(x) - 2) = 0

4sinx(cos^2(x) -1) = 0

4sinx(-sin^2(x)) = 0

4sinx = 0 , -sin^2x = 0

x = 0 , x = 0, pi, 2pi

Why is it when I graph the equation sin3x - sinx = 0 on my calculator, it comes with 7 solutions when i only have 3?

The problem is that the use of your double angle was incorrect but the idea of solving the proble is correct the thing to do here is
sin3x=sinx
implies sin(2x + x)=sinx

implies sin2xcosx +cos2xsinx - sinx=0

implies 2sinx.cosx.cosx +cos2xsinx - sinx=0

implies sinx(2cos^2(x)+ cos2x - 1)=0

implies sinx(2cos^2(x) + 2cos^2(x) - 1 -1)=0

implies sinx(4cos^2(x) - 2)=0
now using the zero product law

implies sinx=0 or cos^2(x)=1/2

then the equation will solve to be x=0 + n360 or x=+or- 45 + n360 where n lies in Z or integers from there you will sub in integers the will give you solutions that lie in your domain you draw your graph
 

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