Single piston engine problem - position of piston

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a simplified single-piston engine problem involving the position of a piston as a wheel rotates at a constant angular speed. The original poster describes the setup and attempts to calculate the position of the piston at a specific time, using a cosine function based on the wheel's radius and angular speed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correct interpretation of the angle in the cosine function and the impact of the connecting rod's angle on the piston’s position. Some suggest drawing a triangle to visualize the problem better, while others question the initial assumptions about the angle used in calculations.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on visualizing the problem through diagrams and triangles, while others are still seeking clarification on their approaches. There is no explicit consensus on the correct method yet.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the need for diagrams to clarify the problem, and there are references to similar problems that may provide additional context. The original poster's assumption about the initial angle and the resulting calculations are under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


Consider the simplified single-piston engine in the figure. The wheel rotates at a constant angular speed of 1 rad/s and the radius of the wheel is 2 m. If the piston is fully extended at time t=0, find the position of the piston at 2s. The figure depicts a wheel with a peg that draws a piston in and out of a bore as the wheel rotates (counter clockwise, with the piston horizontal to the right).


Homework Equations


x=A cos (omega*t)
where A is the radius of the wheel



The Attempt at a Solution



omega*t = 2rad
cos 2 * 2m = x.
since 2 > pi/2, I add 2meters to the resulting x.

The answer I get is reportedly wrong. what's wrong with my approach?
 
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It would help to see a diagram, but are you taking into account the angle of the connecting rod? When the pin is not at 0 or PI, you lose some of the stroke distance since the pin is above or below the axis of the cylinder.
 
Actually it looks like you are trying to include that factor, but the distance x is not cos(2rad*2m). I don't think that's the angle that you should be taking the cos of...
 
after doing some searching, I was able to find another problem with an identical diagram.

http://faculty.ksu.edu.sa/alkurtass/Tut102/Tut102-9.pdf

problem number 7 shows the piston and the wheel. my thinking of the angle being 2 rad stems from the piece that catches on the piston assembly following the path of the wheel. Since the piston is fully extended at time t=0, I believe that puts the initial angle at 0. am I wrong in thinking so?
 
At t=0, the pin is at the far right. At 2s into rotation, the wheel is 2 radians CCW, which is most of the way to PI radians which is the farthest left. The x displacement to the left of the piston is most of the way to max displacement possible, but a little less. To calc the displacement x, draw a triangle. The theta that you take the cos of is most definitely not 2 radians. Draw the triangle on that figure, and show us your calculation...
 
berkeman said:
At t=0, the pin is at the far right. At 2s into rotation, the wheel is 2 radians CCW, which is most of the way to PI radians which is the farthest left. The x displacement to the left of the piston is most of the way to max displacement possible, but a little less. To calc the displacement x, draw a triangle. The theta that you take the cos of is most definitely not 2 radians. Draw the triangle on that figure, and show us your calculation...

And actually, I don't think it's a simple cosine. It's a simple angle calculation, though...
 
Sorry to intrude, but what is it? I have the same problem, with the same omega = 1 rad/s, but my r = 1.3m.
I am trying x = Acos(pi - 2rad) but this is not working. I have drawn a little triangle and concluded that the angle is pi minus omega(t), but no bueno! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
 
livewire852 said:
Sorry to intrude, but what is it? I have the same problem, with the same omega = 1 rad/s, but my r = 1.3m.
I am trying x = Acos(pi - 2rad) but this is not working. I have drawn a little triangle and concluded that the angle is pi minus omega(t), but no bueno! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Can you post a sketch showing your work? That would make it easier to help you.
 
For the sake of posterity and future students facing this kind of problem, I thought I'd post an update. It turns out that because the piston is fully extended at time t=0, the answer is simply x=A cos (omega*t). I was making the problem more difficult than it needed to be. In this case, the answer is -.83 meters
 

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