Sites with LOG Sums to Practice Math

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The discussion revolves around finding resources for practicing logarithmic sums, specifically focusing on the property of logarithms that allows the conversion of products into sums. Participants explore the mathematical proof related to this property and the manipulation of logarithms with different bases.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests links to practice problems involving logarithmic sums, specifically asking for examples like proving that log(xy)base16 = 1/2log(X)base4 + 1/2log(Y)base4.
  • Another participant questions how to convert the left-hand side of the equation from a product into a sum, prompting further clarification.
  • A participant clarifies that they are looking to prove one side of the equation to demonstrate the property of logarithms.
  • It is noted that a fundamental property of logarithms states that log(xy) = log(x) + log(y), which is a key point in the discussion.
  • Further elaboration is provided on relating logarithms of different bases, including identities that connect logs of different bases and how to derive the desired result.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the fundamental properties of logarithms, but there is some uncertainty regarding the specific proof and the manipulation of logarithmic expressions with different bases. The discussion remains unresolved as participants explore different approaches.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the properties of logarithms and the manipulation of expressions, which may depend on the definitions used. There are also unresolved steps in the mathematical reasoning presented.

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Hi,

I just need a little help in getting some sums. Can anyone of you give me a site where I can find sums in Log so that I can do them and practice a lot.

I mean like sums in this type

Show that log(xy)base16 = 1/2log(X)base4 + 1/2log(Y)base4

Thanks just need some sums of this type to practice my self.

Thanks a lot people just give me a few links:smile:

Thanks
 
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Okay, don't bother with the base change first:
Firstly:
How can you change your left-hand side from a product into a sum?
 
Well I mean

Ok I mean not converting to a sum. I mean to prove that you can convert it to a sum.
I mean to prove only 1 side to get the left hand side. And then show that it could be proved.

I think I expressed in the correct way because I am from a non-english country now learning in the english medium
 
Well, but a fundamental property about any log is that we have log(xy)=log(x)+log(y)
 
Ya you I know that, but you can convert it to sums like I've shown above isn't it?
 
Let's take it in detail.
We have:
[tex]\log_{16}(xy)=\log_{16}(x)+\log_{16}(y)[/tex]
by the fundamental property of logs.

Now, we need to relate logs with different bases!
We have, for bases a, b, the identities:
[tex]x=a^{\log_{a}(x)}=b^{\log_{b}(x)}, a=b^{log_{b}(a)[/tex]
Thus, we get:
[tex]b^{\log_{b}(x)}=(b^{\log_{b}(a)})^{\log_{a}(x)}=b^{\log_{b}(a)\log_{a}(x)}[/tex]
Since logs are unique, we therefore have:
[tex]\log_{b}(x)=\log_{b}(a)\log_{a}(x)[/tex]
Now, let b=4, a=16, and get your result.
 

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