Slowest particle for decreasing acceleration

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding an acceleration function, a(t), for a particle moving along a straight line of length D, with initial velocity V(0) = 0 and final velocity V(D) = U. The challenge is to determine the form of a(t) that allows the particle to reach the end of the line in the longest time possible, while ensuring that acceleration is always positive and non-increasing.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the interpretation of "slowest," with some suggesting it refers to maximizing the total time taken to travel from 0 to D, while others question the clarity of the problem statement.
  • There are attempts to apply variational calculus and functional derivatives, but some participants express confusion about their approaches and the correctness of their equations.
  • Several participants suggest considering examples or expressing total time in terms of velocity to explore potential solutions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the assumptions underlying the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the problem, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the requirement that acceleration must be positive and non-increasing, and there is a focus on ensuring that the total time taken is maximized. There are also references to the need for proper formulation of integrals and equations in the context of variational calculus.

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Homework Statement


I need to find the acceleration, a(t), for which a particle moves on a straight line of a length D.
V(0)=0
V(final, that is at x = D) = U
a is always positive, but NON-INCREASING!
What is a(t) for which the particle reaches the end of the line the slowest as possible?

Homework Equations


Calculus Variational

The Attempt at a Solution


Obviously I tried to address it with functional derivative with Lagrange constraints, but
I failed.
 
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I would guess the best a(t), and show that deviations from that are worse.
 
The question does not make any sense."Slowest" is about the speed. However, the end speed is fixed and is U. So it cannot be slower or faster, it can only be U.

Does the question really mean that the total time taken to go from 0 to D, with V(0) = 0 and V(D) = U, must be maximized?
 
"Slowest" could mean the average speed. This is identical to the interpretation you proposed, and the way I interpreted the problem.
 
mfb said:
"Slowest" could mean the average speed. This is identical to the interpretation you proposed, and the way I interpreted the problem.

I think you are giving out too much :)
 
Slowest

That means that it took the object the longest period of time to reach the end.
In other words, the time that took for the object to get to the end is to be maximised.
 
Guess it must involve variational calculus.
I'm desperate... :-(
 
You could consider a few examples first, and try to find the optimal solution (without proof). This might give a hint how to prove it, too.
 
FelidaeTrick said:
That means that it took the object the longest period of time to reach the end.
In other words, the time that took for the object to get to the end is to be maximised.

Then you need to express total time in terms of v(x). For that, consider how long it takes the particle to go through some very small displacement Δx.
 
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Yes, I tried.
but I couldn't derive something valueable
 
  • #11
Show what you have tried. By the rules of the forum, you have to demonstrate an attempt, otherwise we can't help you.
 
  • #12
All integrals boundaries are (0,D) and relating to x.
v is a function of x.

T=∫1/v
∫v'=U --> ∫[v'-U/D]=0
Adding Lagrange Multiplier:
T=∫[1/v-λ(v'-U/D)]
That functional needs be maximised. Using EL:
v''=-1/(λv^2)
Solution to this isn't simple, and moreover seems not to be correct.
 
  • #13
First of all, T=∫1/v is incorrect. It must be T=∫1/v dx. Second, I do not see where you use the requirement that a is positive and not-increasing.

Finally, your Euler-Lagrange equation is not even correct.
 

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