Speed of ball vs Acceleration of the ball?

In summary, the conversation is discussing the relationship between velocity, acceleration, and displacement of a ball thrown vertically. The individual is trying to understand why the markscheme says that as the speed of the ball increases, the acceleration decreases. It is mentioned that acceleration cannot be compared to a force and that there is a misunderstanding of the relationship between velocity and acceleration. The conversation ends with a suggestion to think of differentiation as down and integration as up and to consider the signs of velocity and displacement to better understand the relationship with acceleration.
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Aaryan34532
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations



v = s/t
a = v/t

The Attempt at a Solution



My thinking was that through this small distance of air since velocity would increase due to the change in position changing at an increasing rate and thus since velocity is increasing then obviously acceleration would increase because a = v/t so a= 5/1 is 5m/s^2 and a=10/1 is 10m/s^2 then acceleration is increasing BUT

the markscheme says "A" speed of ball increases, acceleration decreases.. why does acceleration decrease?
 

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Think about all the forces that act on the ball. Especially think about the air drag force that acts on the ball. How does the air drag force changes as velocity increases?
 
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Aaryan34532 said:
since velocity is increasing then obviously acceleration would increase
It is not even true, let alone obvious.
If acceleration is positive, what is happening to the velocity?
Aaryan34532 said:
a = v/t so a= 5/1 is 5m/s^2 and a=10/1 is 10m/s^2
I do not understand your calculation. Please explain the situation you are considering and where these numbers come from.
Aaryan34532 said:
why does acceleration decrease?
It is not in a vacuum.
 
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@haruspex but wouldn't acceleration due to gravity at the start be greater than whatever drag forces existed? if acceleration is positive then velocity also must be positive.
 
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Aaryan34532 said:
wouldn't acceleration due to gravity at the start be greater than whatever drag forces existed?
You cannot compare an acceleration to a force, they're different entities.
If you mean the force of gravity on the object, yes, it will be greater than the drag force, but how does that conflict with what I wrote?
Aaryan34532 said:
if acceleration is positive then velocity also must be positive.
You have a basic misunderstanding of the relationship between velocity and acceleration.
It might help to start one level higher (thinking of differentiation as down and integration as up). I.e., think about displacement and velocity of a ball moving vertically.
I throw a ball up. Consider vertically up velocity and displacement from where I released it. At first, velocity is positive and decreasing, displacement is positive and increasing. After reaching maximum height, velocity is negative. Displacement is still positive but decreasing. Eventually, displacement and velocity are both negative.
Compare the positive/negative state of velocity (i.e. its sign) with that of displacement. Is knowing whether velocity is positive or negative enough to say whether the displacement is (or vice versa)? What about the relationship between the sign of the velocity and whether displacement is increasing or decreasing?

See if you can work out the relationship between the sign of the acceleration and what is happening with velocity.
 

What is the difference between speed and acceleration?

Speed is the rate at which an object is moving, while acceleration is the rate at which the object's speed is changing. In other words, acceleration measures how quickly an object is speeding up, slowing down, or changing direction.

How are speed and acceleration related?

Speed and acceleration are related in that acceleration is what causes a change in an object's speed. If an object has a constant acceleration, its speed will change by the same amount every second. However, if an object's acceleration is changing, its speed will change at a varying rate.

Does a higher speed always mean a higher acceleration?

No, a higher speed does not always mean a higher acceleration. While acceleration does cause a change in speed, the magnitude of the acceleration depends on the initial speed, the final speed, and the time it takes to change from one to the other. An object can have a high speed but a low acceleration if it maintains a constant speed.

How does the mass of an object affect its speed and acceleration?

The mass of an object does not directly affect its speed, but it does affect its acceleration. A larger mass requires a greater force to accelerate at the same rate as a smaller mass. This means that a larger mass will have a lower acceleration compared to a smaller mass, assuming the same amount of force is applied.

What is the formula for calculating speed and acceleration?

The formula for calculating speed is speed = distance / time, while the formula for calculating acceleration is acceleration = change in velocity / time. Velocity is the speed of an object in a specific direction, so it is also necessary to factor in the direction of the object's movement when calculating acceleration.

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