Small and powerful enough battery?

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The discussion revolves around finding a suitable battery for a small alarm tag that requires a buzzer to operate for a minimum of 5 minutes. The focus is on the balance between size and power capacity of the battery, with specific electronic characteristics of the buzzer provided.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the requirements for the battery, specifying the need for a small size (3 cm diagonal or less) and sufficient power (75 mA for 5 min at 5V).
  • Another participant suggests using two CR2032 lithium batteries, which provide 230 mAh at 6V, as a potential solution.
  • A follow-up question is raised regarding the feasibility of using a Renata 317 Skin battery package, which has a lower capacity of 10.5 mAh.
  • There is a suggestion to add a small transistor to potentially enhance battery performance.
  • A participant counters that transistors do not increase the capacity of a battery, challenging the previous suggestion.

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Participants express differing views on the suitability of various battery options, with no consensus reached on the best solution. The discussion includes both suggestions and counterarguments regarding battery capacity and the role of transistors.

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The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding the specific requirements for battery capacity and the implications of using different battery types. The effectiveness of adding a transistor remains unverified.

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Hi all,
I work on something.. its alarm tag. I found buzzer which i want to use in simple electric circuit. Components are the buzzer, and a battery. The tag must work minimum 5 min. The problem is.. I can not find battery small and powerful enough at the same time. Battery diagonal must be 3 cm or less.
Electronic characteristics- Magnetic Buzzer PB-0927PQ

-Oscillation Frequency (Hz)-_______________2731
-Operating Voltage (Vp-p)-_________________4.5~ 5.5
-Rated Voltage (Vp-p)-_____________________5.0
-Current Consumption (mA/max.)-____________75 at Rated Voltage
-Sound Pressure Level (db/min)-______________85 at 10cm at Rated Voltage
-Coil Resistance (Ω)- _______________________25± 4
-Operating Temperature (°C)________________-20 / +70
-Storage Temperature (°C)_________________-30/ +80
-Condition by wave (°C)__________________260 ±5°C / within 5 sec
-condition by hand (°C)_________________350±20°C / within 5 sec

I hope someone knows the answer of my problems (battery, brand or i don't know..)
please help me.
 
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I might be missing something, but you appear to be saying you need 75 ma for 5 min at 5V? That's only 6.3 mah. Slap 2 CR2032 lithium batteries together and you get 230 mah at 6V in a package only 20x7mm!
 
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russ_watters said:
I might be missing something, but you appear to be saying you need 75 ma for 5 min at 5V? That's only 6.3 mah. Slap 2 CR2032 lithium batteries together and you get 230 mah at 6V in a package only 20x7mm!
Thank you for your reply.
Do you think Renata 317 Skin 5.80x1.65mm /1.55V package of four can do the same work.
 
Dimitar63 said:
Thank you for your reply.
Do you think Renata 317 Skin 5.80x1.65mm /1.55V package of four can do the same work.
No; Google tells me they are only 10.5 mah.
 
russ_watters said:
No; Google tells me they are only 10.5 mah.
How about adding small transistor. It might help right?
 
Dimitar63 said:
How about adding small transistor. It might help right?
No, transistors do not increase the capacity of a battery.
 
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