Sn(u), Jacobi elliptic function, for simple pendulum of any amplitude

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical treatment of the simple pendulum's motion, particularly focusing on the relationship between the integral form of the pendulum's period and Jacobi elliptic functions, specifically the sn(u) function. Participants are exploring how to transition from a standard integral to a form involving elliptic functions.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the transformation of integrals related to the pendulum's motion into the Jacobi elliptic function form. Questions arise about specific substitutions and the meaning of the sn(u) notation.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts at solving related problems and expressing confusion about the connections to the sn(u) function. Some guidance has been offered regarding substitutions and integral transformations, but there is no explicit consensus on the understanding of the sn(u) notation.

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Homework Statement
Boas Chapter 11, Section 12, Problem 22. Show that the exact solution when ##\alpha## is not small is
$$sin \frac \theta 2=sin\frac \alpha 2 sn \sqrt \frac g l t$$
where k = ##sin\frac \alpha 2## is the modulus of the elliptic function.
Relevant Equations
$$sn(u) = \int_0^\phi \frac{d\theta}{\sqrt{1-k^{2}sin^{2}\theta}}=sin\phi$$
I understand how to reach

$$\int_0^\phi \frac{d\theta}{\sqrt{1-k^{2}sin^{2}\theta}}=\sqrt \frac g l t$$

from physics but from there I don't get how to turn that into this new (for me) sn(u) form.
 
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Anything I can do to make this more answerable?

I've read the sn, cn, and dn functions were widely used in the past but not so much these days...hard to find some worked examples.
 
mishima said:
Problem Statement: Boas Chapter 11, Section 12, Problem 22.

Have you done problem 17 from the same section. If not, then first do problem 17.
 
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Thanks, I did that one earlier, and could recognize the same ##\frac {sin\frac \theta 2} { sin \frac \alpha 2}## substitution in the exact solution, but I don't understand how this makes the sn(u) function.
 
mishima said:
Thanks, I did that one earlier, and could recognize the same ##\frac {sin\frac \theta 2} { sin \frac \alpha 2}## substitution in the exact solution, but I don't understand how this makes the sn(u) function.

Can you show your solution to question 17?
 
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Alright.

The section narrative provided the starting point of
$$\int_0^\alpha \frac {d\theta} {\sqrt {cos\theta-cos\alpha}}=\sqrt {\frac {2g} l} \frac {T_\alpha} 4 $$
where ##\alpha## is the amplitude of the pendulum's swing, and ##T_\alpha## is the period for a swing from ##\alpha## to ##-\alpha##. ##~T_\alpha/4## then represents a swing through ##\pi/2## and is the t in problem 22.

I can change the cosines into sines using the double angle trig identity:

$$\int_0^\alpha \frac {d\theta} {\sqrt {2sin^2\frac {\alpha} 2-2sin^2\frac \theta 2}}=\sqrt {\frac {2g} l} \frac {T_\alpha} 4 $$

Now I can make the denominator more like an elliptic integral by pulling out the following factor:

$$\int_0^\alpha \frac {d\theta} {\sqrt 2 sin\frac {\alpha} 2\sqrt {1-\frac {sin^2\frac {\theta} 2 }{sin^2\frac {\alpha} 2}}}=\sqrt {\frac {2g} l} \frac {T_\alpha} 4 $$

Now the substitution ##x=\frac {sin^2\frac {\theta} 2 }{sin^2\frac {\alpha} 2}##, its differential, and corresponding limits of integration changes it from Legendre to Jacobi form. This step is of course making my spider senses tingle with problem 22, but again I don't quite understand the sn(u) notation:

$$\sqrt 2 \int_0^1 \frac {dx} {cos\frac \theta 2 \sqrt {1-x^2}}$$

Then its just a matter of using the pythagorean formula for sines and cosines to turn the cosine in the denominator into the Jacobi form, then one last substitution to get the k in the right place:

$$\sqrt 2 \int_0^1 \frac {dx} {\sqrt {1-x^2sin^2\frac \alpha 2} \sqrt {1-x^2}}$$

But that's just

$$\sqrt 2 K(sin\frac \alpha 2)$$
 
Good.

mishima said:
This step is of course making my spider senses tingle with problem 22, but again I don't quite understand the sn(u) notation

To link up with sn, let' s redo problem 17, but with different limits of integration. Suppose that ##\theta=0## at ##t=0##, and that the angular position at general ##t## is ##\theta##. Then, equation (12.6) of the 3rd edition gives

$$\sqrt{\frac{2g}{l}} \int_0^t dt' = \int_0^\theta \frac{d \theta'}{\sqrt{\cos \theta' - \cos \alpha}} .$$

Now, use the same substitutions that are used in problem 17. What happens?
 

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