Soap Bubble interference-verify answer

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The discussion focuses on deriving the expression for wavelengths that result in constructive interference in a soap bubble, which is a thin film of water surrounded by air. The initial attempt involves using phase shifts due to reflection at the interfaces, leading to the equation λ = 2.66d/(m-0.5). Another participant confirms that the derivation aligns with their own, suggesting a different form of the equation that incorporates the wavelength in the soap. They reference a textbook for further clarification on thin film interference. The conversation emphasizes the importance of considering normal incidence in the calculations.
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Homework Statement



A soap bubble is essentially a very thin film of water (n=1.33) surrounded by air. The colors thata you see in the soap bubbles are produced by interference.

Derive an expression for the wavelengths for which constructive interference casues a strong reflection from a soap bubble of thickness d.

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2pi* m = 2pi*2d/(lambda/n) + intial phi = phase shift

In this case, when the light reflects off the bubble, the wave is shifted by pi, but when the waves go through the bubble reflect at the second water-air interface, the waves aren't shifted by pi, so the initial phase difference is equal to pi

2pi*m = 2pi*2dn/lambda + pi

pi(2m-1) = 4pi*dn/lambda

.5(m-.5) = dn/lambda

lambda= 2.66d/(m-.5) Is this right?
 
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could someone please check my answer? I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
 
Please? I really would like to know.
 
ok firstly, are you only considering normal incidence?

secondly, I derived it and got:
d = (2m \pm 1)\frac{\lambda_s}{4}
\lambda_s is the wavelength in the soap.
Which is the same as yours if you don't divide everything by 2 in your equation.

Also, derivation for thin films is very nicely shown on page 393-395 in "OPTICS" by "E. HECHT"
 
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