Society and getting assaulted in jail

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The discussion centers around the harsh realities of prison life, particularly for individuals convicted of DUI offenses. A user shares a harrowing account of repeated sexual assaults and violence experienced in prison, raising questions about the treatment of inmates and the systemic issues within the prison system. The conversation highlights a divide in opinions regarding the treatment of prisoners, with some arguing that inmates deserve humane treatment regardless of their crimes, while others believe that punishment should be severe to deter criminal behavior. The notion that prison conditions serve as a deterrent is debated, with some suggesting that the brutality of prison life may reinforce criminal behavior rather than rehabilitate. There are calls for better protective measures for inmates, but a significant portion of the discussion reflects a belief that those who commit crimes, particularly repeat offenders, should face harsh consequences without sympathy. The dialogue also touches on the broader societal implications of how prisoners are viewed and treated, emphasizing a need for reform in the justice system to address both punishment and rehabilitation.
  • #121
cyrusabdollahi said:
Murder is not allowed, but it happens all the time. I have no clue what your talking about though...

i think he might have been referring to "I explained to the hearing officer what the issue was. He told me that off the record, He suggests I find a man I would/could willingly have sex with to prevent these things from happening. I've requested protective custody only to be denied.".

the authorities knew this guy was being abused, he could have proven it with a doctor's assesment of his injurys being of a sexual nature, but the person in the position of authority didnt think it was his responsability to take proective action.

so its like "i know what's going on and that's not allowed but I am not going to do anything about it"
 
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  • #122
devil-fire said:
i think he might have been referring to "I explained to the hearing officer what the issue was. He told me that off the record, He suggests I find a man I would/could willingly have sex with to prevent these things from happening. I've requested protective custody only to be denied.".

the authorities knew this guy was being abused, he could have proven it with a doctor's assesment of his injurys being of a sexual nature, but the person in the position of authority didnt think it was his responsability to take proective action.

so its like "i know what's going on and that's not allowed but I am not going to do anything about it"

Ah, that is a logical response for which I can say nothing. :approve:
 
  • #123
Hasn't it occurred to any of you that the crimes people go to jail to vary greatly in seriousness? Of course, if you're in jail, you're probably not an angel, but that does not mean you're a murderer either.

What I find very ironic is the distributive inequality of this so-called punishment: who, you think, rapes other inmates in jail? Obviously, it is someone who is violent by nature, who is likely to be there for a crime that involved violence. Do you think this person, who might have killed somebody, gets raped too? Of course not! It's the weaker, less aggressive inmates who get raped: not the murderers and the hardened thugs, but more often than not the petty criminals who are inside for less serious offenses.

This means that the inmates who committed the worst crimes, who ruined (or ended) their victims' lives, are less likely to get raped in jail than average Joe who likes to hit the bottle before taking the wheel. I'm not saying that drunk driving is OK, in fact I do agree that jail time is justified for such reckless and repeated behavior, but is DUI worst than rape or murder? This is what we would have to conclude if we followed this logic of jail rape being a punishment for the crime...

There is also the issue that rape can easily carry consequences that stretch far beyond the jail term. Aside from the obvious psychological trauma of rape, someone diagnosed with AIDS is condemned to a life sentence of drug cocktails, weak health and probably to a premature death. If you are sentenced to, say, five years in prison, your punishment should be over after these five years of inprisonment. Whatever crimes you committed, you should be able to go on with life after you've served your time (unless, of course, you've been sentenced to spend your whole life in the can). If you reoffend, you'll get jail time again, but otherwise nobody should be barred from becoming a useful member of society once they have been punished for their previous actions.
 
  • #124
You do know that no one has responded to this thread in over a year?

It seems all has been said on all sides of this issue that there is no need to drag it up again.
 
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