SOHCAHTOA: Seemingly Simple, Conceivably Complex

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The discussion revolves around the mnemonic SOHCAHTOA, which is used in trigonometry to remember the relationships between the sides and angles of right triangles. Participants explore its implications, related mathematical concepts, and pedagogical approaches to teaching these ideas, including derivatives and logarithmic functions.

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  • Some participants explain the definitions of sine, cosine, and tangent as related to right triangles, using SOHCAHTOA as a mnemonic.
  • Others introduce alternative methods for deriving the derivative of exponential functions, suggesting that Taylor's series is not necessary.
  • A participant proposes defining logarithms through integrals, discussing properties and implications of the logarithmic function.
  • Some participants express the idea that different pedagogical approaches, such as using hyperreals, may be more intuitive for students than traditional limit-based methods.
  • Another participant mentions a specific definition of the number "e" using limits and sequences, presenting it as a familiar concept.
  • References to educational materials, such as Keisler's Calculus book and John Roe’s “Elementary Geometry,” are made to support various teaching methodologies.

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Participants express a variety of viewpoints on the best methods for teaching these concepts, with no clear consensus on a single approach. Some agree on the effectiveness of alternative methods, while others advocate for traditional techniques.

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Discussions include unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the definitions and properties of functions, particularly in relation to teaching strategies and their effectiveness.

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What is SOHCAHTOA
SOHCAHTOA is a mnemonic acronym used in trigonometry to remember the relationships between the sides and angles of right triangles. Each letter in “SOHCAHTOA” stands for a specific trigonometric function:

Sine (sin): The sine of an angle in a right triangle is defined as the ratio of the length of the side opposite that angle to the length of the hypotenuse (the longest side). Mathematically, sin(θ) = opposite/hypotenuse.
Cosine (cos): The cosine of an angle is defined as the ratio of the length of the adjacent side (the side next to the angle but not the hypotenuse) to the length of the hypotenuse. Mathematically, cos(θ) = adjacent/hypotenuse.
Tangent (tan): The tangent of an angle is defined as the ratio of the length of the side opposite that angle to the length of the adjacent side. Mathematically, tan(θ) = opposite/adjacent.

SOHCAHTOA is a helpful tool for students and learners to quickly recall these trigonometric relationships when working with right...

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By the way, you don't have to use Taylor's series to get the derivative of the exponential. With f(x)= a^x, f(x+h)= a^{x+h}= a^xa^h so the "difference quotient" is /frac{a^xa^h- a^x}{h}= a^x\left(\frac{a^h- 1}{h}\right). The derivative is given by \frac{da^x}{dx}= a^x\left(\lim_{h\to 0} \frac{a^{h}- 1}{h}. The limit depends only on a, not on x- it is a constant with respect to x. Writing that constant as C_a, the derivative is C_a a^x.

Of course, C_a depends on what a is. If, for example, a= 2, the difference quotient is \frac{2^h- 1}{h}. Taking h= 0.001, we get the approximation \frac{2^{0.001}- 1}{0.001}= \frac{1.0006934- 1}{0.001}= 0.6934 for C_2. Similarly for a= 3, and taking h= 0.001, \frac{3^{0.001}- 1}{0.001}= \frac{1.001099- 1}{0.001}= 1.0099[/tex] as an approximation for C_3. <br /> <br /> Notice that C_2 is less than 1 while C_3 is larger than 1. So there exist a value of a, between 0 and 1 such that C_a= 1[/tex]. We define &amp;quot;e&amp;quot; to be equal to that value of a. That is, frac{d e^x}{dx}= e^x.
 
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By the way, you don't have to use Taylor's series to get the derivative of the exponential. With f(x)= a^x, f(x+h)= a^{x+h}= a^xa^h so the "difference quotient" is \frac{a^xa^h- a^x}{h}= a^x\left(\frac{a^h- 1}{h}\right). The derivative is given by \frac{da^x}{dx}= a^x\left(\lim_{h\to 0} \frac{a^{h}- 1}{h}\right). The limit depends only on a, not on x- it is a constant with respect to x. Writing that constant as C_a, the derivative is C_a a^x.

Of course, C_a depends on what a is. If, for example, a= 2, the difference quotient is \frac{2^h- 1}{h}. Taking h= 0.001, we get the approximation \frac{2^{0.001}- 1}{0.001}= \frac{1.0006934- 1}{0.001}= 0.6934 for C_2. Similarly for a= 3, and taking h= 0.001, \frac{3^{0.001}- 1}{0.001}= \frac{1.001099- 1}{0.001}= 1.0099 as an approximation for C_3.

Notice that C_2 is less than 1 while C_3 is larger than 1. So there exist a value of a, between 0 and 1 such that C_a= 1. We define "e" to be equal to that value of a. That is, \frac{d e^x}{dx}= e^x.
 
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Another way to handle the exponential is to first define log(x)= \int_1^x\frac{1}{t}dt. We can immediately derive several properties. First, since 1/t is not defined for t= 0, this define log(x) only for x> 0. And then the derivative, 1/x, is positive so log(x) is always increasing. Clearly log(1) is 0 so, since the function is increasing, log(x) is positive for x> 1 and negative for x< 1. It goes to positive infinity for x going to positive infinity and goes to negative infinity for x going to 0.

Most importantly, for our purposes, log(x^y)= \int_1^{x^y}\frac{1}{t}dt. Let u= t^{1/y} so that t= u^y and dt= yu^{y-1}du. When t= 1, u= 1 and when t= x^y u= x[/tex]. So the integral becomes \int_1^x\frac{1}{x^y}\left(yu^{y-1}\right)dx= y\int_1^y \frac{1}{u} du= y log(x). <br /> <br /> Since log(x) is an increasing function, from the positive real numbers to all real numbers, it has an inverse function from all real numbers to the positive real numbers. Call that inverse function &quot;exp(x)&quot;. If y= log(x) then x= exp(y) and if y= exp(x) then x= log(y). Since the derivative of log(x) is 1/x, the derivative of y= Exp(x) is 1/(1/y)= y= Exp(x). If y= Exp(x) then x= log(y). If x is not 0, 1= \frac{1}{x}log(y)= log(y^{1/x}). Going back the other way, y^{1/x}= Exp(1)[/tex] so y= (Exp(1)^x. That is, the function, Exp(x), is this number, Exp(1) to the x power. We define &amp;quot;e&amp;quot; to be Exp(1), the number, x, such that log(x)= 1.
 
These may be mathematically equivalent ways. However, put yourself in the shoes of a department curriculum committee that has to decide what is taught when and make recommendations that make pedagogical sense. Would you choose one of your two suggested methods or would you recommend waiting until after students have seen series expansions?
 
I liked the hyperreals approach allowing you to skip the notion of limits initially in Calculus. Keisler's Calculus book goes that route and its arguably more intuitive to students initially than limits are.

https://www.math.wisc.edu/~keisler/calc.html
 
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jedishrfu said:
I liked the hyperreals approach allowing you to skip the notion of limits initially in Calculus. Keisler's Calculus book goes that route and its arguably more intuitive to students initially than limits are.

https://www.math.wisc.edu/~keisler/calc.html
Agreed. Learning is a drill-down process where you first get an overview and gradually break it down until you fully get it. It makes no sense to me to start with a very detailed account.
 
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Notice that C2C2C_2 is less than 1 while C3C3C_3 is larger than 1. So there exist a value of a, between 0 and 1 such that Ca=1Ca=1C_a= 1. We define "e" to be equal to that value of a. That is, dexdx=exdexdx=ex\frac{d e^x}{dx}= e^x.
If we substitute ##n=1/h## and look for the ##a## for which
$$\lim_{n\to\infty} \left(\frac{a^{1/n}-1}{1/n}\right) = 1$$
with a little rearrangement, we get:
$$a=\lim_{n\to\infty} \left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^n$$
which is another definition of ##e## that many people are familiar with.
 
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There's a similar presentation in John Roe’s “Elementary Geometry” sections 4.1 – 4.4.
https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=Xmb44wyy7gEC
4.1: Dot product
4.2: Pythagorean theorem
4.3: Series definitions of sine and cosine, then defining angle through cosine and the dot product
4.4: SOHCAHTOA
 

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