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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the concentration of AgCl(aq) in equilibrium with excess undissolved solid AgCl(s) at a specific temperature. Participants explore the relationships between various equilibrium constants and the solubility product.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that K3 can be calculated by combining K1 and K2, suggesting that K3 = 200 + 1.9E-10 = 200.
  • Another participant questions the initial approach and suggests writing correct formulas for both Ksp and complex formation without considering other reactions.
  • A later reply indicates a revised calculation for K3, stating K3 = k1 * k2 = 3.8E-8 and proposes that AgCl(aq) = 3.8E-8 mol/L.
  • One participant confirms that the last part of the calculation is the only aspect they are unsure about.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty about the calculations and approaches, with no consensus reached on the correct method or final concentration of AgCl(aq).

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of Ksp and the treatment of solid phases in the equilibrium expressions.

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Homework Statement



Consider the following equilibria at T = 26 0C, in which all ions are aqueous:
Ag+(aq) + Cl-(aq) ----> AgCl(aq) K1 = 2.0E2
AgCl(s) ----> Ag+(aq) + Cl-(aq) K2 = 1.9E-10

Consider the reaction
AgCl(s) ----> AgCl(aq)


and calculate the concentration of AgCl(aq) in equilibrium with excess undissolved solid AgCl(s).


Hint: calculate K3 first and use the equilibration constant expression to find the concentration of AgCl(aq).

Homework Equations


Ksp = [AgCl] I thinK?



The Attempt at a Solution




So I think I'm on the right track but missing something

To get k3 is just combining k1 and k2, Since they easily cancel out to make AgCl(s) -> AgCl (aq), I think k3 is just 200 + 1.9E-10 = 200

k3 = 200? That seems odd but then even if that is true I'm not sure which is next as with solubility I've always had problems where it is Ksp=[A], but this one is just Ksp=[A] as solids wouldn't count right?
 
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Maharg said:

Homework Equations


Ksp = [AgCl] I thinK?

No. First, try to write corect formulas for both Kso and complex formation. Just as if there were no other reactions.
 
Oh I was thinking about it wrong.

Is this correct?

Ag+ + Cl- -> AgCl(aq) k1 = [AgCl]/[Ag+][Cl-]= 2E2
AgCl(s) -> Ag+ + Cl- k2 = [Ag+][Cl-] = 1.9E-10

K3 = k1 k2 = [AgCl(aq)] = 3.8E-8

AgCl(aq) = 3.8E-8 mol/L ?

The last part is only thing I'm not sure about.
 
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Kso*Kf, looks OK to me.
 
Yes thank you it was right. I appreciate the help.
 

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