Selective Precipitation Chemistry Problem

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The discussion revolves around a chemistry homework problem involving selective precipitation of silver compounds, specifically AgCl and Ag2CrO4, in a solution containing chloride and chromate ions. Participants explore the solubility of these compounds and how to determine the concentration of the less soluble compound when the more soluble one begins to precipitate.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the molar solubilities of AgCl and Ag2CrO4, concluding that Ag2CrO4 is more soluble and AgCl is less soluble.
  • The participant attempts to find the concentration of AgCl when Ag2CrO4 begins to precipitate, raising questions about the relationship between the concentrations of Ag+ and Cl- ions.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the problem's wording, suggesting that it may lead to misunderstandings regarding the term "compound" versus "ion."
  • A later reply agrees with the initial calculations and emphasizes that the problem typically focuses on the concentration of ions rather than compounds, which may clarify the confusion.
  • There is a suggestion to revise the laboratory manual to avoid such ambiguities in future assessments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the calculations presented, but there is some disagreement regarding the interpretation of the problem's wording and its implications for understanding the concentrations of ions versus compounds.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in problem wording, particularly concerning the distinction between the concentration of ions and the concept of compounds in precipitation reactions.

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Homework Statement


A solution of AgNO_{3} is added to a solution containing 0.100 M Cl^{-} and 0.100 CrO_{4}^{2-}.

What will be the concentration of the less soluble compund when the more soluble one begins to precipitate?

Homework Equations


Ksp AgCl = 1.82 x 10^{-10}
Ksp Ag2CrO4 = 1.2 x 10^{-12}

The Attempt at a Solution

So, by calculating for their molar solubilities, I would know which one would precipitate first (which one is more soluble or less soluble)

(2x)^2 (x) = Ksp Ag2CrO4
x=Molar solubility of Ag2CrO4 = 6.69 x 10^-5 M
(x)(x) = Ksp AgCl
x= Molar solubility of AgCl = 1.35 x 10^-5 M

Thus, Ag2CrO4 is more soluble and AgCl is the less soluble compound.

Now, how will I find the concentration of the less soluble compound when the more soluble one begins to precipitate?

Please guide me. Here's my attempt for a solution.

The more soluble compound, Ag2CrO4 will begin to precipitate at this Ag+ concentration

[Ag+]^2 [CrO42-] = Ksp Ag2CrO4
[Ag+] = sqrt( Ksp Ag2CrO4 / [CrO42-] ) = 3.46 x 10^-6 M

Now, how would I find the concentration of AgCl in the solution? Again, here is my attempt:

I think, I should substitute the Ag+ concentration at the formula

[Ag+][Cl-] = Ksp AgCl

, But, is the Cl- concentration that I will get equal to the concentration of AgCl in the solution? I'm very confused. :(. Anyway, here's an attempt:

[Cl-] = Ksp AgCl / [Ag+] = 5.26 x 10^-5 M

I mean, the answer CAN be plausible since the concentration seemingly decreased. Is it correct guys?

I think what I am having problem with is that why would the concentration of AgCl be equal to the equilibrium conc of Cl- ?
 
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Anyone here who can help me? Our test didn't include anything like this (thank god), but anyway, I still feel the need to learn this kind of stuff. It looks simple but I still can't be certain about this.

Please help.
 
Sorry, somehow I missed your post earlier.

What you did is correct. I guess the wording of the problem is wrong - it is a classic question, asked every year everywhere, and it always asks about concentration of the ion (Cl- here) and not "compound". Compound is ambiguous in this context which is why you are confused.
 
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Borek said:
Sorry, somehow I missed your post earlier.

What you did is correct. I guess the wording of the problem is wrong - it is a classic question, asked every year everywhere, and it always asks about concentration of the ion (Cl- here) and not "compound". Compound is ambiguous in this context which is why you are confused.

Oh. Truth be told, I was wacking my head finding a similar problem in textbooks & internet and like you said, it's concerned only on the final equilibrium concentration of an ion. Thanks.

I guess it's time to suggest to our institute to revise their laboratory manual, or at least their self-assesment questions. It has become more of a confusion rather than a help.

Again, thank you very much. :)
 

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