Solution for Dirac equation with zero mass.

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The discussion revolves around the Dirac equation for massless particles, specifically addressing the relationship between helicity and chirality. Participants explore the implications of the solutions to the Dirac equation and the definitions of chirality and helicity in the context of massless fermions.

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  • One participant presents the decoupling of the Dirac equation into left and right-handed components, providing solutions and suggesting these represent particles and antiparticles with various helicities.
  • Another participant cites a Wikipedia article explaining that for massless particles, chirality and helicity are equivalent due to the invariance of helicity under Lorentz boosts.
  • A participant agrees with the Wikipedia statement but questions the relationship between chirality and helicity, arguing that both helicity solutions from the right-handed equation are classified as right chiral, which seems contradictory.
  • There is a suggestion to compare results with an external article, indicating a search for further clarification.
  • A later reply expresses that the Wikipedia article misattributes chirality to the direction of spin, aligning with the participant's own understanding.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between chirality and helicity, with some agreeing with the Wikipedia explanation while others challenge its accuracy. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitions and implications of chirality in relation to helicity for massless particles.

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Participants highlight potential ambiguities in the definitions of chirality and helicity, particularly in the context of Lorentz transformations and the properties of massless particles. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in these definitions without reaching a consensus.

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The dirac equation for massless particles can be decoupled into separate equations for left and right handed parts. i \tilde{\sigma}^\mu\partial_\mu \psi_R= 0 and i \sigma^\mu\partial_\mu \psi_L= 0. Now we can have four solutions for each of the above equations. For the equation i \tilde{\sigma}^\mu\partial_\mu \psi_R= 0, the solutions are \left(\begin{array} (E+p_z \\ 0 \end{array}\right) e^{i(-Et+p_z z)}, \left(\begin{array} (0 \\ -E+p_z \end{array}\right) e^{i(-Et+p_z z)}, \left(\begin{array} ( -E+p_z \\ 0 \end{array}\right) e^{i(Et+p_z z)} and \left(\begin{array} ( 0 \\ E+p_z \end{array}\right) e^{i(Et+p_z z)} with E^2-p_z^2 = 0.From my understanding the above four solutions represent particle with positive helicity, particle with negative helicity, antiparticle with positive helicity and antiparticle with negative helicity. But all the four are right chiral. But people say for massless particles helicity and chirality are the same. How is this possible? Am I making some mistake somewhere?
You may say that massless fermions doesn't exist. But even in standard model at very high energies above the symmetry breaking, all fermions are massless.
 
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This paragraph from the Chirality article at Wikipedia seems to hold the answer:
A massless particle moves with the speed of light, so a real observer (who must always travel at less than the speed of light) cannot be in any reference frame where the particle appears to reverse its relative direction, meaning that all real observers see the same chirality. Because of this, the direction of spin of massless particles is not affected by a Lorentz boost (change of viewpoint) in the direction of motion of the particle, and the sign of the projection (helicity) is fixed for all reference frames: the helicity is a relativistic invariant.
 
Thanks for the reply.

I agree with those quoted statements from wikipedia.

For example if you boost \left(\begin{array} (E+p_z \\ 0 \end{array}\right) e^{i(-Et+p_z z)} we get \left(\begin{array} (E^'+{p^'}_z \\ 0 \end{array}\right) e^{i(-E^'t+{p^'}_z z)} where E^'and {p^'}_z are the new energy and momentum in the boosted frame. Now the helicity operator which is \left(\begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0 \\ 0 & -1 \end{array} \right) gives a helicity of +1 for the above solution before and after the boost. Everything is fine. Now in the same way the second solution \left(\begin{array} (0 \\ -E+p_z \end{array}\right) e^{i(-Et+p_z z)} has helicity -1 which is unchanged by boost. But both these are the solutions of the equation i \tilde{\sigma}^\mu\partial_\mu \psi_R= 0. So both are right chiral.

Now wikipedia says
"For massless particles — such as the photon, the gluon, and the (hypothetical) graviton — chirality is the same as helicity; a given massless particle appears to spin in the same direction along its axis of motion regardless of point of view of the observer."

I agree with the second part " a given massless particle appears to spin in the same direction along its axis of motion regardless of point of view of the observer." , but direction of spin has nothing to do with chirality. Chirality is defined based on the lorentz transformation property of the solution.

Am I wrong or is the wikipedia wrong?
 
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Thanks for the link. It doesn't contradict what I thought. I think the wikipedia article wrongly attribute chirality to direction of spin.
 

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