Solve Ball on a String for Velocity w/ Mass, Length & Gravity

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a ball of mass M hanging from a massless string of length L. The ball is projected with an initial horizontal velocity V, and the goal is to find V in terms of M, L, and gravitational acceleration g. The problem involves concepts of circular motion and projectile motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze the transition from circular to parabolic motion, focusing on the conditions under which the tension in the string becomes zero. They present equations related to the velocity at the moment of transition, the time of flight, and the angle of transition. Other participants question the completeness of the calculations and suggest reviewing the workings for accuracy.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaged in reviewing the original poster's calculations and providing feedback. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correctness of the approach, but there is no explicit consensus on the final result. The discussion is ongoing, with attempts to refine the angle and velocity calculations.

Contextual Notes

The original poster has indicated that this is not a formal homework problem but is seeking help with the solution process. There are references to specific angles and equations, but the completeness of the calculations remains uncertain.

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This isn't actually a homework problem, but I thought it would be relevant to post it here since it is a problem afterall, and I need some help at the solution. Thank you everyone!

Homework Statement



There is a ball mass M hanging on a massless string length L, from a nail in the wall. When the ball is projected with initial horizontal velocity V, it swings up, but then falls back down and hits the nail. Find V in terms of M L and g.

2. Requested Help

I would appreciate it if someone could see if my method is problematic, and if my answer is correct if you would want to work it out.

The Attempt at a Solution



For ball to leave a circle and transit to a parabolic motion, Tension in string must equal to zero at point of transition. Thereafter, the parabolic motion will coincide with the nail. I have 3 equations and 3 unknowns - velocity at moment of transition, time taken for parabolic flight, and angle from vertical which transition occurs.

Using the above, I got an angle of 65.53 deg
I got v^2 = gl cos(angle)
And I eliminated t.

Finally, after using conservation of energy, I arrive at projection velocity V = Sqrt(3.24Lg)
 
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Hi melancholy2! Welcome to PF! :smile:

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melancholy2 said:
For ball to leave a circle and transit to a parabolic motion, Tension in string must equal to zero at point of transition. …

Yes, that's correct. :smile: But it's very difficult to check your final result without seeing your full calculations. :redface:
 
Hi everyone,

I've relooked at my workings and managed to come up with a new answer which I think is correct. Angle is now 54.7 degrees. Please see the attachment solution. Thanks!
 

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Hi melancholy2! :smile:

(I haven't actually checked the last 6 lines :redface:, but apart from that …)

Yes, that looks fine. :smile:

(except you could have saved yourself a little trouble if you'd noticed that lcosθ + lsin2θ/cosθ = l/cosθ :wink:)
 

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