How Does Pulling the String Affect the Speed of a Ball in Circular Motion?

In summary, a ball of mass m is set into circular motion on a frictionless table with a radius R. If the string connected to the ball is pulled from the bottom with a force F, causing the radius of the motion to decrease, the final speed of the ball will depend on the mass, initial velocity, and the force applied. Using the equation Fc = mv^2/r, the final velocity can be calculated. However, it is important to consider other factors such as torque and conservation of angular momentum.
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Homework Statement


Ball of mass=m on the frictionless table is connected to a string that passes in hole that is in table. The ball is set into a circular motion on a circle of radius = R. If the string pulled from the bottom, withe the force F, so that the radius of motion of ball would decrease, how would the final speed of ball change?

Homework Equations


I know that centripetal force sets the ball into motion, it is given by the formula:

##F_C = \frac{mv^2}{r}##
where
m - mass of the body(m in my example)
v - velocity in my example:
## v_0 ##
r - radius of path - R in my example
F - force applied

So if the volocity is ##v_0##, mass is ##m## and the string that the ball is connected to, is pulled so that the radius of path is decreased, how would the final velocity change(the force F is applied to the string at its bottom)

The Attempt at a Solution



##F_C = \frac{mv^2}{r}##

Therefore:

## v= \sqrt {\frac {R_f F_C} {m}} ## where:

## R_f = R-r ## and ## F_C = ## force applied at the bottom of string., so ##F_C = F##
 
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Koko$ said:

Homework Statement


Ball of mass=m on the frictionless table is connected to a string that passes in hole that is in table. The ball is set into a circular motion on a circle of radius = R. If the string pulled from the bottom, withe the force F, so that the radius of motion of ball would decrease, how would the final speed of ball change?

Homework Equations


I know that centripetal force sets the ball into motion,
No it doesn't - it keeps the ball in circular motion, but it does not "set the ball into motion". You can see this by pulling on the string of a stationary ball - would you expect circular motion to start?

Before you settle on your approach - it is useful to check your understanding of the physics.
Are there any other forces on the ball? i.e. is the ball rolling or slipping or a mixture of both?
Are there any other physical laws or rules that may be applied to this system?

##F_C = \frac{mv^2}{r}##
This equation tells you the constant speed for circular motion if the central force is Fc. For F>Fc, v must increase to keep the same radius. If v is unchanged, then r must decrease. You will see, if you try this, that r decreases ... but does v change as well? The math can balance out if v increases or decreases.
You have watched lots of things spiral down a hole in your life - what usually happens?

But there are other ways to approach things - i.e. is there a torque on the ball?
 
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The ball is set into motion on circular path of radius R. Ball is connected to a string, at the bottom of the string, the force acting downward is applied, so the radius(R) is decreased. I found similar problem in web, but there is no force applied, but the mass M.

So maybe I should just convert force into mass, aply to the ##F_C## formula and from this ##F_C## calculate the final velocity,.. but how much shorter will be the string(radius) if the force(some force - not given in numbers) is applied?
 
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Consider the fact that for this problem, angular momentum is conserved.
 
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The ball is set into motion on circular path of radius R. Ball is connected to a string, at the bottom of the string, the force acting downward is applied, so the radius(R) is decreased. I found similar problem in web, but there is no force applied, but the mass M.
Do not copy results from anywhere unless you understand them.

You appear to be trying to find an equation to apply.
That is a beginner technique and only works when there are not very many equations to memorize - i.e. when you don't know a lot of physics.
Use physics instead - the equations will follow.

When someone, trying to help you, asks a question - it is usually a good idea to try answering it:
I said:
i.e. is there a torque on the ball?
... if there is no external torque on the ball then there is no angular acceleration, so there is no change in the angular momentum. This is exactly the same as the regular F=ma case only with the rotational equivalents.

This sort of reasoning is called: "using the physics".

The torque is equal to the rate of change of angular momentum - if the torque is zero that means:
rcgldr said:
... angular momentum is conserved.
 
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Related to How Does Pulling the String Affect the Speed of a Ball in Circular Motion?

1. What is circular motion of a ball?

Circular motion of a ball refers to the movement of a ball along a circular path, where the distance from the center of the circle to the ball remains constant.

2. What causes a ball to move in circular motion?

A ball moves in circular motion due to the presence of an external force, such as a person throwing or kicking the ball, or the force of gravity pulling the ball towards the center of the circle.

3. How is the speed of a ball in circular motion determined?

The speed of a ball in circular motion is determined by its tangential velocity, which is the rate at which the ball is moving along the tangent to the circular path at any given point. This velocity is dependent on the ball's angular velocity (how quickly it rotates around the center of the circle) and the radius of the circle.

4. What is centripetal force in circular motion?

Centripetal force is the force that is responsible for keeping an object moving in a circular path. In the case of a ball moving in circular motion, this force is directed towards the center of the circle and is provided by the tension in the string, the force of gravity, or the force of a person's hand throwing or kicking the ball.

5. How does the mass of a ball affect its circular motion?

The mass of a ball does not directly affect its circular motion, but it does play a role in determining the amount of centripetal force needed to keep the ball moving in a circular path. A heavier ball will require more force to maintain circular motion compared to a lighter ball with the same speed and radius of rotation.

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