Solve bernoulli differential equation with extra constant

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The discussion focuses on solving the Bernoulli differential equation given by u'(t)=c*u(t)^2-c*(a+b)*u(t)+c*a*b. The initial solution for the homogeneous part is identified as u_0(t)=(1/(a+b)+d*e^{c(a+b)t})^{-1}. Participants clarify that the equation can be expressed in a linear form, allowing for the use of linear operators. The consensus suggests that separation of variables is a more effective method than attempting to combine solutions of the homogeneous and non-homogeneous parts.

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Homework Statement


Find a solution for:
u'(t)=c*u(t)^2-c*(a+b)*u(t)+c*a*b

The Attempt at a Solution


I've found the solution for the homogeneous equation:
u_0(t)=(\frac{1}{a+b}+d*e^{c(a+b)t)})^{-1}
Where c is a random constant.

Now I've tried the solution u(t)=x(t)*u_0(t), when I fill this in it gets a mess and i can't figure out what x(t) should be.
Can someone help me?
 
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Berrius said:

Homework Statement


Find a solution for:
u'(t)=c*u(t)^2-c*(a+b)*u(t)+c*a*b

The Attempt at a Solution


I've found the solution for the homogeneous equation:
u_0(t)=(\frac{1}{a+b}+d*e^{c(a+b)t)})^{-1}
Where c is a random constant.

Now I've tried the solution u(t)=x(t)*u_0(t), when I fill this in it gets a mess and i can't figure out what x(t) should be.
Can someone help me?

This isn't a linear equation, so I'm not sure what you consider the "homogeneous" equation. If you write it as$$
u'+ c(a+b)u =cu^2+cab$$at least the left side of the equation is linear. That means if you can find a solution ##u_1## of ##u'+ c(a+b)u =cu^2## and a solution ##u_2## of ##u'+ c(a+b)u =cab## then ##u_1+u_2## should be a solution of your original DE.
 
With homogeneous I just ment the differential equation without the constant part.

But your approach won't work because u'(t)=u_1'(t)+u_2'(t)=-c(a+b)u_1(t)+cu_1^2(t)-c(a+b)u_2(t)+cab=-c(a+b)u(t)+cu_1^2(t)+cab

Or am I seeing it wrong?
 
I would forget Bernoulli's equation and just try separation of variables. The right side factors. Just use partial fractions to integrate it.
 
Berrius said:
With homogeneous I just ment the differential equation without the constant part.

But your approach won't work because u'(t)=u_1'(t)+u_2'(t)=-c(a+b)u_1(t)+cu_1^2(t)-c(a+b)u_2(t)+cab=-c(a+b)u(t)+cu_1^2(t)+cab

Or am I seeing it wrong?

Right. You can't combine them that way. Just separate.
 
Berrius said:
With homogeneous I just ment the differential equation without the constant part.

But your approach won't work because u'(t)=u_1'(t)+u_2'(t)=-c(a+b)u_1(t)+cu_1^2(t)-c(a+b)u_2(t)+cab=-c(a+b)u(t)+cu_1^2(t)+cab

Or am I seeing it wrong?

You are seeing it wrong. If you let$$
L(u) = u' + c(a+b)u$$be the left side linear part then ##L## is a linear operator, which means ##L(u_1+u_2) = L(u_1)+L(u_2)##. So if ##L(u_1) = cu_1^2## and ##L(u_2)=abc##, what do you get for ##L(u_1+u_2)## ?
 
LCKurtz said:
You are seeing it wrong. If you let$$
L(u) = u' + c(a+b)u$$be the left side linear part then ##L## is a linear operator, which means ##L(u_1+u_2) = L(u_1)+L(u_2)##. So if ##L(u_1) = cu_1^2## and ##L(u_2)=abc##, what do you get for ##L(u_1+u_2)## ?

But you want to get ##L(u_1+u_2) = c(u_1+u_2)^2+abc##. You don't get that.
 
Dick said:
But you want to get ##L(u_1+u_2) = c(u_1+u_2)^2+abc##. You don't get that.

No wonder I was feeling a little uncertainty about my argument. :blushing: And it seemed so neat at the time...
 

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