Solve Buoyant Force Problem: Helium Balloon for Levitation - 70.1 kg Mass

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The problem involves calculating the volume of helium required for a helium balloon to levitate a person with a mass of 70.1 kg, alongside the balloon's mass of 31.6 kg. The densities of air and helium are provided, and the context centers around buoyant force principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of buoyant force equations and the need to account for the total weight of the system, including the helium's weight. There are questions regarding the correct formulation of the buoyant force and how to incorporate the masses involved.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on how to set up the equations correctly, suggesting the need to consider the difference in densities and the total weight of the system. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct volume calculation, with varying interpretations of the necessary components.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the assumption that the weight of the balloon material is negligible compared to the total weight of the system, which may affect the calculations. Additionally, the original poster's initial volume calculation was noted as incorrect, prompting further discussion.

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Hi, I am having some trouble with the following question:

You (mass 70.1 kg) decide to take off--literally--with a helium balloon of mass 31.6 kg. The densities of air and helium are air = 1.321 kg/m3 and helium = 0.179 kg/m3. What volume of helium is needed to levitate you and the balloon?

I think that you use the buoyant force equations, but I am not sure how. I tried doing it like this:
F(buoy)=density(fluid)*V'*g or
(101.7*9.81)=(1.321*V'*9.81) and solved for V' and got
V'=76.987 m^3
but this is not correct.

I cannot figure out how to do this problem, any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!
 
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If we take the equation which you stated;

F_{b} = \rho V g

The 'thing' that is creating the buoyant force is the difference between the relative densities of the fluids hence in your case;

F_{b} = ( \rho_{air} - \rho_{helium} )Vg

-Hoot
 
First, you must state the total weight of your system:
W=W_{person}+W_{balloon}+W_{helium}
Note that your unknown volume appears in W_{helium}[/tex]<br /> Assuming that you and the balloon material contributes only negligibly to the total volume of the system, you can now find what the volume must be by equating this total weight with the buoyant force (which is the net pressure force needed to keep a volume V of air floating in..the air).
 
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Try adding the weight of the helium in the balloon to the lefthand of your equation, the mass of the balloon probably do not include this additional weight
m_{helium}g=\rho_{helium} Vg
 
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so the volume must be 89.05 m^3, thanks everyone!
 

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