Solve Eigenvalues, Eigenvectors & General Solution for X'=AX

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of differential equations represented in matrix form, specifically focusing on finding eigenvalues, eigenvectors, and the general solution for the system defined by \(X' = AX\). The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanations related to linear algebra and differential equations.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the system in matrix form, identifying \(A\) as \(\begin{bmatrix} 1 & 2 \\ 3 & 2 \end{bmatrix}\).
  • Eigenvalues \(\lambda_1 = -1\) and \(\lambda_2 = 4\) are proposed, but the method for finding eigenvectors is debated.
  • Some participants suggest using Gaussian elimination to solve for eigenvectors, while others express uncertainty about the process.
  • One participant proposes a specific eigenvector \((^{1}_{-1})\) corresponding to \(\lambda_1\), while another later confirms this as correct.
  • There is confusion regarding the notation for matrices and vectors, with participants seeking clarification on the use of parentheses versus brackets.
  • Participants discuss the general solution format, with one suggesting \(X(t) = C_1 (^{2}_{3}) e^{4t} + C_2 (^{1}_{-1}) e^{-t}\), but there is uncertainty about the correct representation of eigenvectors.
  • A specific solution that satisfies initial conditions is proposed as \(X(t) = -\frac{4}{5} (^{2}_{3}) e^{4t} - \frac{8}{5} (^{1}_{-1}) e^{-t}\).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the eigenvalues and the form of the matrix \(A\), but there is ongoing debate regarding the correct identification of eigenvectors and the notation used. The discussion remains unresolved on certain aspects of the solution process and notation clarity.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the steps involved in finding eigenvectors and the implications of different notations. There is also a lack of consensus on the final representation of the general solution and specific solutions.

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Consider the system $x'_1 = x_1 + 2x_2$ and $x'_2 = 3x_1 + 2x_2$

If we write in matrix from as $X' = AX$, then

a) $X =$

b) $X' =$

c) $A =$

d) Find the eigenvalues of **A**.

e) Find eigenvectors associated with each eigenvalue. Indicate which eigenvector goes with which eigenvalue.

f) Write the general solution to the system.

g) Find the specific solution that satisfies the initial conditions $x_1(0) = 0$ and $x_2(0) = -4$


**Ok so here are my solutions so far**

a) $X = \vec{X} = (^{x_1}_{x_2})$

b) $X' =$ \begin{bmatrix} (1-\lambda) & 2 \\ 3 & (2-\lambda) \end{bmatrix}

c) $A =$ \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 2 \\ 3 & 2 \end{bmatrix}

d) $\lambda_1 = -1$ and $\lambda_2 = 4$

e,f,g) **Please Help!** Not sure what to do.

Thanks in advance. ( I also need someone to verify that my answers are correct).
 
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Hi shamieh,

For b) you should have $X'=(^{x_1'}_{x_2'})$.
Your other answers are correct.

For e) you need to solve $(-I - A)X = 0$ respectively $(4I -A)X = 0$.
These equations should lead to infinitely many solutions, which are actually lines.
You need to find a vector on each line, which are the eigenvectors.
 
Serena, I am kind of uncertain on how to do that. Do you mean that I should do this? $(-I - A)X =$ \begin{bmatrix} -2 & -3 \\ -4 & -3 \end{bmatrix} ?

I am a little uncertain on how to apply $(-I - A)X$
 
shamieh said:
Serena, I am kind of uncertain on how to do that. Do you mean that I should do this? $(-I - A)X =$ \begin{bmatrix} -2 & -3 \\ -4 & -3 \end{bmatrix} ?

I am a little uncertain on how to apply $(-I - A)X$

What we have is:
$$(-I-A)X = \left(\begin{bmatrix}-1&0\\0&-1\end{bmatrix} - \begin{bmatrix}1&2\\3&2\end{bmatrix}\right)X
=\begin{bmatrix}-2&-2\\-3&-3\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}x_1\\x_2\end{bmatrix}
= 0$$

The standard way to solve such an equation is with Gausssian elimination, also known as row reduction.
Are you familiar with that process?
 
So now would I get
$-2x_1 - 2x_2 = 0$
$-3x_1 - 3x_2 = 0$
 
shamieh said:
So now would I get
$-2x_1 - 2x_2 = 0$
$-3x_1 - 3x_2 = 0$

Yes. Can you solve it?
That is, find at least one non-zero solution, considering that any multiple will also be a solution?
 
So I'm thinking that $x_1 = 1$ & $x_2 = -1$ because $3x_1 + 3x_2 = 0$ ?
 
shamieh said:
So I'm thinking that $x_1 = 1$ & $x_2 = -1$ because $3x_1 + 3x_2 = 0$ ?

Yep. You've found the eigenvector corresponding to eigenvalue -1.
 
So my first vector will be $v_1 = e^{-t} (^1_{-1}) = (^{e^{-t}}_{-e^{-t}})$ ?
 
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Also does \begin{bmatrix} stuff && stuf \\ morestuf && mrstuf \end{bmatrix} and $(^s_x)$ both mean the same thing ? Are they both implying Matrices or is the parenthesis implying something different? I've noticed some people use them interchangeably and some people not. I noticed that parenthesis are used in sets $(^n_k)$
 
  • #11
shamieh said:
So my first vector will be $v_1 = e^{-t} (^1_{-1}) = (^{e^{-t}}_{-e^{-t}})$

You seem to be jumping ahead, and it's not quite correct yet.

The eigenvector for $\lambda=-1$ is $(^{1}_{-1})$.
This is the first half of the answer to e).
 
  • #12
So finally I have: $v_1 = 1$ , $v_2 = -1$ so $eigenvector_1 =$ \begin{bmatrix} e^{-t} \\ -e^{-t} \end{bmatrix} and $w_1 = 2$, $w_2 = 3$ so $eigenvector_2 =$ \begin{bmatrix} 2e^{4t} \\ 3e^{4t} \end{bmatrix}

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Oh I get what your saying. The eigenvector corresponding to $\lambda_1$ is $(^1_{-1})$
 
  • #13
shamieh said:
Also does \begin{bmatrix} stuff && stuf \\ morestuf && mrstuf \end{bmatrix} and $(^s_x)$ both mean the same thing ? Are they both implying Matrices or is the parenthesis implying something different? I've noticed some people use them interchangeably and some people not. I noticed that parenthesis are used in sets $(^n_k)$

More or less. The first two both signify matrices, although the second is really a vector that just might be interpreted as a matrix. However, the notation $\binom n k$ usuaĺly denotes binomium or combination, which is something completely different.
 
  • #14
so that means that the second eigenvector corresponding with $\lambda_2$ is going to be ($ ^{2e{4t}}_{3e^{4t}}$)
 
  • #15
shamieh said:
so that means that the second eigenvector corresponding with $\lambda_2$ is going to be ($ ^{2e{4t}}_{3e^{4t}}$)

No. The eigenvector is not a function of t.
Those functions only come in the later questions.
 
  • #16
so for part f) finding the general solution would it just be $X(t) = C_1 (^2_3)e^{4t} + C_2 (^1_{-1})e^{-t}$ ?

- - - Updated - - -

I like Serena said:
No. The eigenvector is not a function of t.
Those functions only come in the later questions.

So then how do I write the final solution for part e) ?
 
  • #17
and for g) I got $X(t) = -4/5 (^2_3) e^{4t} - 8/5(^1_{-1})e^{-t}$
 
  • #18
shamieh said:
So then how do I write the final solution for part e) ?

The second part is that the eigenvector for $\lambda=4$ is $\binom 2 3$.
shamieh said:
so for part f) finding the general solution would it just be $X(t) = C_1 (^2_3)e^{4t} + C_2 (^1_{-1})e^{-t}$ ?

and for g) I got $X(t) = -4/5 (^2_3) e^{4t} - 8/5(^1_{-1})e^{-t}$

Looks good! (Nod)
 

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