Solve Eigenvector Equation: Prove Roots are Scalars

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The discussion revolves around a problem from general relativity that involves proving that the roots of a determinant equation related to tensors are scalars. The original poster is trying to understand the implications of the determinant equation for eigenvalues in the context of tensor components.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive a quartic equation for the eigenvalues and questions whether the equation will involve the tensor components. Some participants suggest considering the invariance of eigenvalues under transformations as a definition of scalars in general relativity. Others express uncertainty about how to approach the determinant calculation and inquire about relevant theorems.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of scalars in the context of general relativity, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach to take.

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Participants have noted a lack of familiarity with the specific mathematical concepts involved, particularly in relation to the determinant equation and its implications in different reference frames.

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Hi, this is actually for my general relativity class, but I thought I would get more help in the math section of the forums, since it involves very little physics, or even not at all.

Homework Statement


Take Tab and Sab to be the covariant components of two tensors. Consider the determinant equation for \lambda :

| \lambdaTab - Sab |= 0

Prove that the roots of this equation are scalars, making clear what you mean by scalar.

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Well If I solve for the determinant I think I should get a quartic equation for the eigenvalues \lambda of the form
\lambda^4 + a1\lambda^3 + a2\lambda^2 + a3\lambda + a4 = 0
Or not? Will I get an equation involving the components of the tensors T and S??
I just want to make sure I am understanding the question and I'm headed in the right path.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
 
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Maybe you need to show that the eigenvalues are dependent on T_ab and S_ab in such a way that makes them invariant under transformations to another reference frame. Is that how "scalar" is defined in GR?

There's probably a clever way to answer the question that won't involve writing out the equations in detail.
 
I just don't know where to start. Do you suggest getting the determinant of the matrix and equaling that to 0? That will take so long. Is there some theorem or something? Anybody know? :S
 
Sorry I don't think I know enough to help. I'm only studying special relativity, so I don't know how to interpret this determinant equation.
 
Yeah this is a pretty weird problem. One of my classmates is helping me now :)
Thanks anyway
 

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