Solve Exponent Question: PV^{\frac{2+f}{f}}

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The discussion revolves around simplifying an expression involving variables related to gas laws, specifically focusing on the relationship between volume (V), pressure (P), and temperature (T) under certain conditions. The original poster attempts to manipulate the equation VT^{\frac{f}{2}} = constant and relates it to the ideal gas law, PV = nRT.

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  • Participants discuss various manipulations of the equation, questioning how to simplify the expression to reach the form PV^{\frac{2+f}{f}}. There are attempts to clarify the relationships between the variables and their interpretations, particularly regarding initial and final states.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the variables involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of equations and the relationships between the variables, but no consensus has been reached on the simplification process.

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There is some confusion regarding the definitions of the variables i and f, as well as the initial and final states of volume and temperature. The original poster's attempts to relate their expressions to the ideal gas law are noted, but clarity on these definitions remains unresolved.

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Ok I mucked up the question

given
[tex]VT^{\frac{f}{2}[/tex] = constant
[tex]T = PV[/tex]
Need help simpi
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I get [tex]V (PV)^{\frac{f}{2}}[/tex]
which is the same as
[tex]V P^{\frac{f}{2}}V^{\frac{f}{2}}[/tex]
which is the same as
[tex]P^{\frac{f}{2}} V^{\frac{2+f}{2}}[/tex]

Now how do i simplify it from here?

answer is [tex]PV^{\frac{2+f}{f}}[/tex]
 
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whoops i Meant

[tex]PV^{\frac{2+f}{f}}[/tex] is the answer
 
Ok I mucked up the question

given
[tex]VT^{\frac{f}{2}[/tex] = constant
[tex]T = PV[/tex]

-------

I get [tex]V (PV)^{\frac{f}{2}}[/tex]
which is the same as
[tex]V P^{\frac{f}{2}}V^{\frac{f}{2}}[/tex]
which is the same as
[tex]P^{\frac{f}{2}} V^{\frac{2+f}{2}}[/tex]

Now how do i simplify it from here?

answer is [tex]PV^{\frac{2+f}{f}}[/tex]
 
vorcil said:
Ok I mucked up the question

given
[tex]VT^{\frac{f}{2}[/tex] = constant
[tex]T = PV[/tex]

-------

I get [tex]V (PV)^{\frac{f}{2}}[/tex]
which is the same as
[tex]V P^{\frac{f}{2}}V^{\frac{f}{2}}[/tex]
which is the same as
[tex]P^{\frac{f}{2}} V^{\frac{2+f}{2}}[/tex]

Now how do i simplify it from here?

answer is [tex]PV^{\frac{2+f}{f}}[/tex]

You're given two equations, so any subsequent work should be an equation. Are you trying to solve for one of the variables?

Your second equation seems to be related to the ideal gas law, PV = nRT.
 
Yeah, I'm trying to understand how to get from

[tex]ViTi^{\frac{f}{2}}= VfTf^{\frac{f}{2}}== VT^{\frac{f}{2}}[/tex]

To the equivalent equation

[tex]PV^{\frac{2+f}{f}}[/tex]
using PV=nRT
I just can't seem to figure it out though
 
vorcil said:
Yeah, I'm trying to understand how to get from

[tex]ViTi^{\frac{f}{2}}= VfTf^{\frac{f}{2}}== VT^{\frac{f}{2}}[/tex]

To the equivalent equation

[tex]PV^{\frac{2+f}{f}}[/tex]
This is not an equation. An equation states that two expressions have the same value.
vorcil said:
using PV=nRT
I just can't seem to figure it out though

What are i and f? My guess is that you are interpreting things incorrectly. For example could what you are writing as Vi be the initial volume? If so, it would be written as Vi. And what you are writing as Vf might be the final volume, Vf. Same with Ti and Tf, which could represent the initial and final temperatures.
 
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