Solve for a When Parabola y=x^2-a(x+1)+3 Intersects x-Axis Once

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The discussion revolves around the conditions under which the parabola defined by the equation y=x^2-a(x+1)+3 intersects the x-axis at a single point. Participants are exploring the implications of this condition on the parameter 'a' and the structure of the quadratic equation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to rearrange the equation into a standard form and are discussing the implications of completing the square. Questions arise regarding the conditions for a quadratic to have a single root and the interpretation of constants in the vertex form.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various attempts at completing the square and questioning each other's steps. Some guidance on the structure of quadratic equations and the conditions for single roots has been offered, but no consensus has been reached on the values of 'a'.

Contextual Notes

There are multiple interpretations of the equation and its components, leading to confusion about the correct form and values of 'a'. Participants are also addressing the need for clarity in notation and the steps involved in completing the square.

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Homework Statement


When the parabola y=x^2-a(x+1)+3 intersects the x-axis at one point then a=_ or =_.

Homework Equations


The equation of parabola y^2=4px,x^2=4py depending on the orientation

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the parabola meets the x-axis once, I assume that to be the vertex.I try to rearrange the function into an appropriate form but I get stuck here.
y=x^2-ax-a+3
The equation already has two unknowns and hell breaks lose when I try to complete the square.
 
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Asla said:

Homework Statement


When the parabola y=x^2-a(x+1)+3 intersects the x-axis at one point then a=_ or =_.

Homework Equations


The equation of parabola y^2=4px,x^2=4py depending on the orientation

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the parabola meets the x-axis once, I assume that to be the vertex.I try to rearrange the function into an appropriate form but I get stuck here.
y=x^2-ax-a+3
The equation already has two unknowns and hell breaks lose when I try to complete the square.

What is the condition for a quadratic to have a single root?
 
Asla said:
y=x^2-ax-a+3
The equation already has two unknowns and hell breaks lose when I try to complete the square.

How exactly does all hell break loose? What do you get?
 
LCKurtz said:
How exactly does all hell break loose? What do you get?
I get something to this effect;
y+1/2a-3=(x-1/2a)^2
I get stuck because the y part cannot be factorized but I am again thinking that the I could equate 1/2a-3=0 because apparently the left side should not have a constant since the vertex is along the x-axis.That could give me one of the values of a as 6.
 
Asla said:
I get something to this effect;
y+1/2a-3=(x-1/2a)^2
I get stuck because the y part cannot be factorized but I am again thinking that the I could equate 1/2a-3=0 because apparently the left side should not have a constant since the vertex is along the x-axis.That could give me one of the values of a as 6.

When you write 1/2a do you mean a/2 or 1/(2a). You should use parentheses. In any case, show your steps on completing the square because what you have isn't correct.
 
LCKurtz said:
When you write 1/2a do you mean a/2 or 1/(2a). You should use parentheses. In any case, show your steps on completing the square because what you have isn't correct.
Oh my mistake,
I got this y+(1/4)a^2-3=(x-(1/2)a)^2
Is that what you have?
 
No, it isn't.
 
You may want to revisit parabolas and completing the square, you are missing some knowledge there.

Some practice:
1. Complete the square: 2x^2 + 5x - 4 = 0
2. Complete the square: y = 2x^2 + 5x - 4
3. Complete the square: y = ax^2 + bx + c

Your answer for #3 should be ##y = a(x + \frac{b}{2a})^2 + \frac{4ac - b^2}{4a}##.
Then...

No, what I said after this was not correct. But this is good practice still.
 
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verty said:
3. Complete the square: y = ax^2 + bx + c

Your answer for #3 should be ##y = a(x + \frac{b}{2a})^2 + \frac{4ac - b^2}{4a}##.

If you let y = 0 and solve for x, you get the well-known formula for the roots of a parabola. But already in this form it is clear that something strange happens when ##4ac = b^2##.
 
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LCKurtz said:
No, it isn't.
I redid it.
I got this:
y+(1/4)a^2+a-3=(x-(1/2)a)^2
and solved a to be -6 or 2
 

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