Solve for x⁴+16x-12=0 using effective methods

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The discussion revolves around solving the polynomial equation \(x^4 + 16x - 12 = 0\). Participants explore various methods for finding the roots, including heuristic approaches, factoring, and algebraic manipulation. The conversation includes both theoretical considerations and practical problem-solving techniques.

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  • One participant expresses dissatisfaction with their solution method, suggesting the problem is intended for practicing problem-solving skills and seeking alternative approaches.
  • Another participant proposes factoring the polynomial into two quadratics as a potential solution method.
  • A participant presents a method of rewriting the polynomial as a difference of squares, leading to a simpler factorization into quadratics.
  • Multiple participants discuss the factorization method, with one noting the simplicity of the solution found online and expressing surprise at the approach.
  • Another participant suggests that experience and trial and error play a role in recognizing how to manipulate the polynomial effectively.
  • A later reply introduces a rigorous approach using natural resolvents from quartic equations, detailing the relationships between the roots and providing a cubic equation derived from the quartic.
  • This rigorous method leads to a set of roots, but the participant notes the complexity involved in the calculations.

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Participants present multiple competing methods for solving the equation, with no consensus on a single best approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective method.

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Some participants rely on specific algebraic identities and theorems, while others express uncertainty about the methods they propose. The discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of the roots and the applicability of different solution techniques.

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Hi MHB,

This is a problem expected someone to solve it using the shortest route possible, and I've solved it, but using one most ordinary method that is very tedious and less gratifying.:( But I firmly believe this problem is designed and meant for practicing of the heuristic/problem solving skills, the thing is I just don't see there is any shortcut to tackle it.:mad:

If you happened to know there is another way to solve this problem, would you please show me? Thanks a bunch in advance.:)

Problem:

Solve $x^4+16x-12=0$.

My solution:

Descartes' Rule of Signs suggests there is at most one positive and one negative real roots, and since there is only one inflexion point (if we let $f(x)=x^4+16x-12=0$, then $f'(x)=4x^3+16$ which then implies $f'(x)=0$ iff $x=-4^{1/3}$) for the given function, from $f(1)=5,\,f(0)=-12,\,f(-3)=21$, Intermediate Value Theorem tells us the function $f(x)=x^4+16x-12=0$ has one positive real, one negative real and two complex roots.

If we first let the 4 roots be $a+bi,\,a-bi,\,c+\sqrt{d},\,c-\sqrt{d}$, Vieta's formula says the sum of the four roots is zero. Thus, $2a+2c=0,\,\rightarrow\,a=-c$.

The coefficient of $1$ from the given function allows us to further assume the four roots (2 of which real and 2 of which complex) as $1+bi,\,1-bi,\,-1-\sqrt{d},\,-1-\sqrt{d}$. Note that this can be wrong, as the $+1$ can stick to the real roots and the $-1$ be assigned to the complex roots. That said, we need to check our working to verify of our answer.

According to the Vieta's formula, it tells us again that

$(1+bi)(1-bi+(-1-\sqrt{d})+(-1-\sqrt{d}))+(1-bi)((-1-\sqrt{d})+(-1-\sqrt{d}))+(-1-\sqrt{d})(-1-\sqrt{d}))=0$

This simplifies to $(b^2-2d+1)+(bd-2b)i=0$, i.e.,

$d=\dfrac{b^2+1}{2}$ and substituting this into $bd-3b=0$ gives $b(b^2+1-6)=0$, or $b^2=5$ since $b\ne 0$ and hence $d=3$.

This generates the four roots to be $1+\sqrt{5}i,\,1-\sqrt{5}i,\,-1+\sqrt{3},\,-1-\sqrt{3}$.

I checked and realized this is a valid set of the answer.

But I am not satisfied by my method, I thought there ought to be another easy way to do this good problem. So, any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Try factoring it into two quadratics:

$$x^4+16x-12=\left(x^2+ax+b\right)\left(x^2+cx+d\right)$$
 
Oh My Goodness!

It actually can be rewritten as
$\begin{align*}x^4+16x-12&=x^4+4x^2+4-4(x^2-4x+4)\\&=(x^2+2)^2-(2(x-2))^2\\&=(x^2+2+2(x-2))(x^2+2-2(x-2))\\&=(x^2+2x+4)(x^2-2x+6)\\&=(x-(-1+\sqrt{3}))(x-(-1-\sqrt{3}))(x-(1+\sqrt{5}i))(x-(1+\sqrt{5}i))\end{align*}$

See how simple this solution that I found online is! :o

Edit: Hey MarkFL, you're right, I'm such a fool, I don't know where my head is...hehehe...
 
$x^4 + 16x - 12 = (x^4 + 4x^2 + 4 ) - (4x^2 - 16x + 16) = (x^2+2)^2 - (2(x-2) ))^2$. Since it is of form $a^2 - b^2$, we can rewrite that as $(a-b)(a+b)$, which yields a product of two quadratic as MarkFL indicated.

EDIT: You beat me to the post.
 
anemone said:
Oh My Goodness!

It actually can be rewritten as
$\begin{align*}x^4+16x-12&=x^4+4x^2+4-4(x^2-4x+4)\\&=(x^2+2)^2-(2(x-2))^2\\&=(x^2+2+2(x-2))(x^2+2-2(x-2))\\&=(x^2+2x+4)(x^2-2x+6)\\&=(x-(-1+\sqrt{3}))(x-(-1-\sqrt{3}))(x-(1+\sqrt{5}i))(x-(1+\sqrt{5}i))\end{align*}$

See how simple this solution that I found online is! :o

Edit: Hey MarkFL, you're right, I'm such a fool, I don't know where my head is...hehehe...

I did not see that it could be rewritten as the difference of two squares...yet. :D
 
anemone said:
Oh My Goodness!

It actually can be rewritten as
$\begin{align*}x^4+16x-12&=x^4+4x^2+4-4(x^2-4x+4)\\&=(x^2+2)^2-(2(x-2))^2\\&=(x^2+2+2(x-2))(x^2+2-2(x-2))\\&=(x^2+2x+4)(x^2-2x+6)\\&=(x-(-1+\sqrt{3}))(x-(-1-\sqrt{3}))(x-(1+\sqrt{5}i))(x-(1+\sqrt{5}i))\end{align*}$

See how simple this solution that I found online is! :o

Edit: Hey MarkFL, you're right, I'm such a fool, I don't know where my head is...hehehe...

How does one even notice something like that? :confused:
Trial and error of regrouping and adding and subtracting terms?
 
Rido12 said:
How does one even notice something like that? :confused:
Trial and error of regrouping and adding and subtracting terms?

One will know by experience, Rido12! :o Or, since we know the given function could be factored as $(x^2+ax+b)(x^2+cx+d)$, we can still figure out the values of $a,\,b,\,c,\,d$ through a little computation by comparing the coefficients.:)
 
In case anyone wants a rigorous approach, the natural resolvents coming from a quartic are

$$\alpha_1 = (x_1 + x_2)(x_3 + x_4) \\ \alpha_2 = (x_1 + x_3)(x_2 + x_4) \\ \alpha_3 = (x_1 + x_4)(x_2 + x_3)$$

Where $x_i$ are the roots of the quartic. Note that these are left unchanged by the $4! = 24$ permutation of the roots. If we take the quartic in OP, it is not too hard to verify that $\alpha_i$s satisfies the cubic

$$x^3 + 48x + 256 = 0$$

This, however, factors as $(x + 4)(x^2 - 4x + 64) = 0$ by rational root theorem (indeed, this indicates that the Galois group of this polynomial is $D_4$ and shouldn't involve too much radicals). The roots are thus

$$\alpha_1 = -4 \\ \alpha_2 = 2(1 - i\sqrt{15}) \\ \alpha_2 = 2(1 + i\sqrt{15})$$

By some tedious computations, one retrieves the original roots of the quartic back

$$2x_1 = \sqrt{-\alpha_1} + \sqrt{-\alpha_2} + \sqrt{-\alpha_3} \\ 2x_2 = \sqrt{-\alpha_1} - \sqrt{-\alpha_2} - \sqrt{-\alpha_3} \\ 2x_3 = -\sqrt{-\alpha_1} + \sqrt{-\alpha_2} - \sqrt{-\alpha_3} \\ 2x_4 = -\sqrt{-\alpha_1} - \sqrt{-\alpha_2} + \sqrt{-\alpha_3}$$

Which are, after the application of the identities $\sqrt{-2\left (1-i\sqrt{15}\right)} + \sqrt{-2\left(1+i\sqrt{15}\right)} = 2 \sqrt{3}$ and $\sqrt{-2\left(1-i\sqrt{15}\right)} - \sqrt{-2\left(1+i\sqrt{15}\right)} = i2 \sqrt{5}$ and appropriate signs (this is the real pain in the neck) are

$$x_1 = -1 + \sqrt{3} \\ x_2 = -1 - \sqrt{3} \\ x_3 = 1 + i\sqrt{5} \\ x_4 = 1 - i\sqrt{5}$$

These methods are much more practical while doing calculations of these sort, although they do not describe describe any of the beauties of manipulation whatsoever.
 

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