Solve Inequality Problem for f(x)=x^2+kx+k, Determine k

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The discussion revolves around determining the values of k for the function f(x) = x^2 + kx + k such that f(x) > 0. Participants are exploring the implications of this inequality in the context of quadratic functions and their graphical representations.

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  • Participants suggest visualizing the parabola by varying k and discuss the significance of the vertex's position relative to the x-axis. Some propose completing the square to analyze the conditions under which the function remains positive. Others mention the use of the quadratic formula to find roots and the implications of the discriminant.

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The discussion is active with various approaches being explored, including graphical analysis and algebraic manipulation. Some participants express uncertainty about the completeness of certain suggestions, while others affirm the validity of different methods. There is a recognition of the connection between the vertex's position and the requirement for f(x) to be positive.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a high school math contest preparation, which may influence the depth of exploration and the types of solutions considered. There is also mention of a related problem regarding the minimum value of another function, indicating a broader context of inquiry.

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for f(x)=x^2+kx+k, determine all values of k such that f(x)>0

could someone please help me get started here? I am reviewing for a high school math contest and it's been quite some time since I've learned about inequalities. I've managed to solve some rudimentary problems, but this one really has me stumped.
 
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simple enough. this equation represents a curve called parabula.
try drawing this curve on XY surface.
try with different k values such as: k=0, k=1, k=-1... and see how this changes the curve.

*please note that k=0 doesn't match your question because if does get the value of 0 and you're required to find f(x)>0.

if you need more help, let me know how it goes...
 
Try completing the square: [tex]x^2+kx+k=\left( x+\frac{k}{2}\right) ^2+k-\frac{k^2}{4}>0[/tex] for what values of k?
 
since this is a parabula, you can find its roots (the points where f(x)=0). there are always 2 roots.
roots equations: (-B +- sqrt(B^2 - 4AC)) / 2A
A is the coefficient of X^2
B is the coefficient of X^1
C is the coefficient of x^0

the parabula has 3 different possible conditions:
#1: intersecting the X axis twice.
#2: intersecting the X axis once.
#3: not intersecting the X axis at all.

think which one you want it to be, and use the roots equation to calculate accordingly
 
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For a fixed value of k, f(x) is an upwards opening parabola whose vertex occurs at [tex]x=-\frac{k}{2},[/tex] we require that all points on the parabola be above the x-axis and hence require that the lowest point on the parabola be above the x-axis, that is the y-coordinate of the vertex must be >0, i.e. we require [tex]f\left( -\frac{k}{2}\right) >0 .[/tex]
 
@benorin: I'm not sure your suggestion leads to the full solution. i might be wrong though...
 
Benorin's solution works completely because it's the same as yours (using the discriminant).
 
Thanks a lot, benorin and greytomato!

Visualising how the parabola whose vertex is above y=0 was the connection that I had needed to make on my own. :P From there, I just completed the square, and solved for the values of k that would keep the vertex above y=0. I probably wouldn't have thought to use discriminants that way though, so it's good that I saw an alternative way of solving the problem.

Another problem came up for me today, and I think it's probably better to post it in this thread instead of clogging the forums up with a new thread:

Find the minimum value of f(x)=3^(x^2+4x)

For this question, I figured f(x)>0, since a number raised to a power cannot yield a negative number. so, I have

0<3^(x^2+4x)

written down, but once again, I find myself stuck =\
 
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Thanks a lot, benorin and greytomato!

Visualising how the parabola whose vertex is above y=0 was the connection that I had needed to make on my own. :P From there, I just completed the square, and solved for the values of k that would keep the vertex above y=0. I probably wouldn't have thought to use discriminants that way though, so it's good that I saw an alternative way of solving the problem.

Another problem came up for me today, and I think it's probably better to post it in this thread instead of clogging the forums up with a new thread:

Find the minimum value of f(x)=3^(x^2+4x)

For this question, I figured f(x)>0, since a number raised to a power cannot yield a negative number. so, I have

0<3^(x^2+4x)

written down, but once again, I find myself stuck =\
One big hint for you is that the function f(x) := 3x is a strictly increasing function, that is for every x1 < x2, you'll always have:
f(x1) < f(x2).
Now to find the minimum value of [tex]3 ^ {x ^ 2 + 4x}[/tex], you must find a minimum value of: x2 + 4x, which can be done by completing the squares.
Can you go from here? :)
 
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yes! thank you very much!
 

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