Find k for Tangent Line of f(x) = x^2 - kx

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The problem involves finding the value of k such that the line represented by y = 4x - 9 is tangent to the function f(x) = x^2 - kx. The discussion centers around the concepts of tangent lines and derivatives in the context of this quadratic function.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between tangent lines and derivatives, with some questioning whether the tangent line is equivalent to the derivative of the function. Others explore how to identify points on the curve and the implications of having two variables in the function.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of tangent lines and derivatives. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the function and its derivative, as well as how to set up equations to find the unknowns. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on the need to find a point on the curve and the role of k as an unknown constant. The discussion highlights the challenge of working with two variables in the context of the problem.

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Hi, I need help on a math problem that asks me to find k such that the line is tangent to the function, given[tex]f(x) = x^2 - kx[/tex] and [tex]y = 4x - 9[/tex].

I don't know how to solve for k. Is "tangent line" the same thing as the equation that is the derivative of the function?
 
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To find a tangent line:

1) Find the derivative of your function. The derivative gives you the slope of the function for any given x.

2) Find a point on the curve: an x0 and its corresponding y0.

3) Use point-slope form to combine the point and slope into a single equation.

In this case, the x0 is arbitrary. You're not trying to find a particular tangent line at a particular x0, you're trying to find the tangent line for any arbitrary x0.

- Warren
 
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bubbles said:
Is "tangent line" the same thing as the equation that is the derivative of the function?
No, while the slope of a tangent line at a particular value x for a given function f(x) is the derivative of that function for the particular value x, the derivative of a function f(x) is the expression of the slopes of the tangent lines for all values of x.
 
How do I find a point of the curve f(x)=x^2-kx where there are 2 variables?
 
Every point on that curve is of the form (x, f(x)). k cannot be eliminated until the very end of this problem.

- Warren
 
bubbles said:
How do I find a point of the curve f(x)=x^2-kx where there are 2 variables?
There aren't. There is only one variable, x (you know that because it says "f(x)"). The k is an unknown constant. What is the derivative of f(x)= x2- kx, remembering that the variable is x? Knowing that x must give the same "y" value for y= x2- kx and y= 4x- 9 gives you one equation for the two unknown numbers x and k. Knowing that the derivative of f(x)= x2- kx at that x is the same as the slope of y= 4x- 9 gives you another. Now you have two equations for the two unknown numbers, x and k.

(There are, by the way, two correct solutions.)
 

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