Solve Kinematics Problem: 2 Stones Meeting at Height

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The problem involves two stones thrown vertically with the same initial velocity, where the first stone is thrown 2 seconds before the second. The goal is to determine the height at which the two stones meet during their respective trajectories.

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  • Participants discuss the equations of motion for both stones, questioning the correctness of their initial setups and adjustments for the time difference. There is exploration of how to account for the 2-second delay in the throw of the second stone.

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Some participants have offered guidance on the equations to use, while others are clarifying the assumptions regarding the starting points of the stones. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to equate the distances traveled by both stones.

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Participants are navigating the implications of the 2-second delay in the timing of the stone throws and how it affects the equations of motion. There is uncertainty regarding the initial conditions and the proper formulation of the equations for both stones.

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Homework Statement


You throw a stone straight up with initial V of 24.5m/s and 2.0 s later you throw a second stone straight up with the same initial velocity. The first stone going down will meet the second stone going up. At what height above the point of release do the two stones meet?


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I'm not sure if I'm doing the question correctly. My attempt at it is below.



The Attempt at a Solution


1st Stone
d = Vt
d = 24.5t

2nd Stone
d = 24.5t + .5(9.8)t^2
after 2 seconds, 24.5 x 2 = 49, so d + 49 = 24.5t +.5(9.8)t^2

I then plugged in the d equation from the 1st stone
24.5t + 49 = 24.5t + 4.9t^2
4.9t^2 = 49
t = 3.162 seconds is when the two stones are at the same distance.

Then i assume that you just plug in the t-value in the distance equation for the 1st stone but i keep getting an incorrect answer. Any help please?
 
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Hi marco101! Welcome to PF! :wink:
marco101 said:
… 1st Stone
d = Vt
d = 24.5t

Nope … that's for constant velocity, isn't it?

You need an equation just like for the 2nd stone, but with an adjustment to t. :smile:
 
Is my 2nd equation correct then?

Im thinking if it's 2 seconds later, then the equation to the first stone is
d = 24.5 (t+2) + .5(9.8)(t+2)^2

while the 2nd stone stays the same, d + 49 = 24.5t +.5(9.8)t^2 and then set the two equal to each otehr?
 
Hi marco101! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)
marco101 said:
Is my 2nd equation correct then?

Im thinking if it's 2 seconds later, then the equation to the first stone is
d = 24.5 (t+2) + .5(9.8)(t+2)^2

Yup! :biggrin:
while the 2nd stone stays the same, d + 49 = 24.5t +.5(9.8)t^2 and then set the two equal to each otehr?

Nooo … forget the 49 … they both start from d = 0 (one at t = 0, one at t = -2), don't they? :wink:
 

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