Solve Magnitudal Tension Homework: Q & ACB Tension

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The problem involves analyzing a pulley system with two cables, where a load Q is applied to the pulley C, and another load P is supported by a second cable. The subject area pertains to statics and tension in cables.

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  • The original poster attempts to solve for the tensions in the cables and the load Q using free body diagrams and equilibrium equations. Some participants question the correctness of the original poster's calculations and suggest alternative approaches. Others provide equations related to the forces acting on the system and discuss the angles involved.

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Participants are exploring different methods to analyze the problem, with some providing equations and others expressing confusion about specific aspects of the problem. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet, and the discussion remains open for further input and clarification.

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The original poster has indicated that their initial answers were incorrect, and there is uncertainty regarding the application of trigonometric functions in the equations. Additionally, one participant has expressed understanding of the first equation but confusion about the second.

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Homework Statement


A load Q is applied to the pulley C, which can roll on the cable ACB. The pulley is held in position shown by a second cable CAD, which passes over the pulley A and supports a load P. Knowing that P=750N, determine
a) the tension in cable ACB
and
b) the magnitude of load Q

Homework Equations


Using cos and sin rules...?

The Attempt at a Solution


I drew a free body diagram around C, with Q going down, a cable going to the right 25 degrees above the horizontal and a cable going to the left 55 degrees above the horizontal.
The cable on the left i assumed to be 750N.
So the sum of the forces along the X axis is (Tension of ACB)cos25-750cos55=0 and T came out to equal 474.7N.
The sum of the forces along the Y axis is (Tension of ACB)sin25+750sin55-Q=0 and I got Q to equal 241.6N
The answers came out to be in the kiloNewtons.

I also tried another way after finding out my answers were completely off. If it is 750N down, then the cable going from C to A would equal 915.6N (CA = 750/sin55). Using 915.6 as the force for my left cable on my free body diagram, the sum of the forces along the X axis is (Tension of ACB)cos25-915.6cos55=0 and the Tension came out to be 579.5N.
The sum of the forces along the Y axis is 579.5sin25+915.6sin55-Q=0 and Q=994.9N. These answers were also wrong.

So please, can anyone direct me in the correct direction?
 

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i think your first attempt is correct. i see nothing wrong. don't know if i am missing something.
 
There are two string in the problem.
i) The string ACB, one end of which is fixed to the center of the pulley A. Each segment of the string has a tension T.
ii)The string DAC, one end of which is fixed to the center of the pulley C.
Net force in the Y direction is
T*cosθ1 + T*cosθ2) - Q = 0...(1)
String DAC at rest when
Q*cosθ1 - T = P. ...(2)
Here θ1 and θ2 are the angles made by the segments AC and CB with the vertical.
Substitute the value of Q from the eq.1 in eq1.2 and solve for T. From that find Q.
 
rl.bhat said:
There are two string in the problem.
i) The string ACB, one end of which is fixed to the center of the pulley A. Each segment of the string has a tension T.
ii)The string DAC, one end of which is fixed to the center of the pulley C.
Net force in the Y direction is
T*cosθ1 + T*cosθ2) - Q = 0...(1)
String DAC at rest when
Q*cosθ1 - T = P. ...(2)
Here θ1 and θ2 are the angles made by the segments AC and CB with the vertical.
Substitute the value of Q from the eq.1 in eq1.2 and solve for T. From that find Q.

I understand the first equation, but instead of using cos, I had sin55 and sin25. But I don't understand your second equation...
 
Sweet! I have figured it out!
 
can you help i have the same problem
 

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