Solve pKa of unknown monoprotic Acid

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The discussion revolves around calculating the pKa of an unknown monoprotic acid based on titration data and pH measurements. Participants explore the relationships between moles of acid and base, the use of the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation, and the implications of their calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculated the molar mass of the acid to be 116 g/mol based on the titration data.
  • Another participant confirmed the approach to calculating pKa but requested to see the details of the calculation.
  • A participant calculated the moles of NaOH used in the titration and attempted to derive pKa using the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation, suggesting that log([A-]/[HA]) equals 1.
  • There was a correction regarding the moles of NaOH, with a participant asserting that the correct calculation should use the total moles based on the titration volume rather than just the volume after adding 10 mL of NaOH.
  • One participant clarified the distinction between moles of A- and HA in the equation, emphasizing the need to calculate concentrations based on the final volume after titration.
  • After further calculations, a participant reported finding pKa to be 5.79 and Ka to be approximately 1.62 x 10^-6, expressing gratitude for assistance received.
  • Another participant noted that concentrations were not necessary for the calculation since the volume would cancel out in the ratio.
  • One participant raised a point about significant figures in the calculations, suggesting it could be a minor consideration.

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Participants generally agree on the method of calculating pKa but have differing views on specific calculations and the importance of significant figures. Some corrections and clarifications were made, but no consensus on the final values was established.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in calculations, particularly concerning the use of concentrations versus moles and the impact of significant figures on the results.

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I've been trying to figure this one out for a while.

A 0.1276g sample of a monoprotic acid was dissolved in 25mL H2O, and titrated with a .0633 M NaOH solution. Volume required to reach equivalence point was 18.4 mL.
It asked me to calculate the molar mass, which i found to be 116g/mol:
0.0633 x .0184 = .0011 moles NaOH.
1 mol NaOH = 1 mol Acid = .0011 moles Acid.
\frac{.1276g}{.0011} = 116 g/mol

Then it asks to find the Ka of the acid after the addition of 10 mL and pH of 5.87.
I tried using the formula: pH = pKa + log \frac{[A-]}{[HA]}
but the answer in the back of the text doesn't match up to what i come up with, so I'm guessing that isn't the right way of doing this.
 
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Show details of your pKa calculation - approach seems to be correct.

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I calculated for moles in 10mL of NaOH to be 6.3*10-4
1 mol of NaOH = 1 mol of monoprotic acid,
moles monoprotic acid = 6.3*10-4

then, using:
pH = pKa + log\frac{[A-]}{[HA]}
If my reasoning is correct, log\frac{[A-]}{[HA]} will equal 1 since [A-] and [HA] will equal the moles of HA (6.3*10-4)

solving for Ka i get:

-log Ka = 5.87
10-5.87 = Ka = 1.35*10-6

answer in the text is 1.6*10-6
 
Hey Commie! Your moles of NaOH is indeed equal to the number of moles of the monoprotic acid but it isn't 6.3 X 10-4. Do over. Remember that #moles=volumeXconcentration (of NaOH, 0.0633M and 18.4 mL).
 
Alright, I just keep repeating my same thought pattern or something, because I keep coming up with:

.0633 M x .01L = .000633moles NaOH

Someone save me from my sinful ways!

edit: woah wait a minute. okay, so why am i using the 18.4 mL of base still? if it's asking for Ka after the addition of 10mL and pH 5.87
 
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AGHHHH! My bad!

Yes, you are right, the number of moles of acid that have been converted to A- is 6.33 X 10^-4. What would 0.0117 - 6.3X10^-4 represent?

6.33 X 10^-4 is not [HA] in your equation... it's A- (moles). Divide the moles of A- by the volume in L to get [A-].

Remember that HA is not equal to [HA] and A- is not equal to [A-].
 
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A-ha!
Okay, here it is.

after addition of 10mL final volume is .035L. So 6.3*10^-4 / .035L = .018 M [A-]

.00116 moles HA - 6.3*10^-4 = 5.3*10^-4 moles (HA left in flask).
5.3*10^-4 / .035 = .015 M [HA]

then:
solving for pKA,
pKa= 5.87 - log(.018/.015)
pKa= 5.79
Ka = 10^-5.79
Ka = 1.62*10^-6

Thanks chemisttree. This problem would've been bugging me for the rest of my life.
 
Note: you don't need concentrations in this case, number of moles will do. Volume is the same for both nominator and denominator, so it cancels out.

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Comrade said:
A-ha!
Okay, here it is.

after addition of 10mL final volume is .035L. So 6.3*10^-4 / .035L = .018 M [A-]

.00116 moles HA - 6.3*10^-4 = 5.3*10^-4 moles (HA left in flask).
5.3*10^-4 / .035 = .015 M [HA]

then:
solving for pKA,
pKa= 5.87 - log(.018/.015)
pKa= 5.79
Ka = 10^-5.79
Ka = 1.62*10^-6

Thanks chemisttree. This problem would've been bugging me for the rest of my life.

One minor point... significant figures. If significant figures aren't important to you, then nevermind.
 

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