Solve Quadratic Equation: Find c-a Given p and q

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The discussion revolves around solving a quadratic equation of the form $$ax^2-5x+c=0$$ given the roots $$p$$ and $$q$$, which are part of a geometric sequence along with $$\frac{1}{8pq}$$. Participants explore the relationships between the coefficients and the roots, as well as the implications of logarithmic conditions.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Technical explanation, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant establishes that $$p,q,\frac{1}{8pq}$$ forms a geometric sequence, leading to the equation $$q^3=\frac{1}{8}$$ and finding $$q=\frac{1}{2}$$.
  • Another participant notes the relationship between the coefficients and roots, stating that $$a(p+q)=5$$ and $$apq=c$$, suggesting substitution to find $$a$$ and $$c$$.
  • A later reply derives $$c$$ in terms of $$a$$ as $$c=\frac{a^2}{36}$$ and expresses $$c-a$$ as $$-3c-10$$, indicating a struggle to simplify further.
  • One participant corrects the earlier expression for $$c-a$$, asserting that it does not equal $$-3c-10$$ and hints at a solution by finding $$a$$ through a quadratic equation derived from $$a(p+q)=5$$.
  • Another participant confirms that $$a=6$$ is a valid solution under the condition $$a>0$$, suggesting that the problem can be resolved from this point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the simplification of expressions and the correct formulation of $$c-a$$. There is no consensus on the final value of $$c-a$$, as some participants are still uncertain about the steps involved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include unresolved mathematical steps and dependencies on the definitions of $$p$$ and $$q$$. The discussion reflects various assumptions about the relationships between the variables.

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Given p and q are the roots of the quadratic equation $$ax^2-5x+c=0$$ with $$a\neq0$$. If $$p,q,\frac1{8pq}$$ forms a geometric sequence and $$log_a18+log_ap=1$$, the value of c – a is ...
A. $$\frac13$$
B. $$\frac12$$
C. 3
D. 5
E. 7

Since $$p,q,\frac1{8pq}$$ is a geometric sequence, then:
$$\frac{q}{p}=\frac{\frac1{8pq}}q$$
$$\frac{q}{p}=\frac1{8pq^2}$$
$$q=\frac1{8q^2}$$
$$q^3=\frac18$$
$$q=\frac12$$

Also, since $$log_a18+log_ap=1$$, then:
$$log_a18p=log_aa$$
18p = a
$$p=\frac{a}{18}$$

This is where the real problem starts. No matter how I substitute, either it will cancel out the a's or p's, or becoming a quadratic equation with no real roots. What should I do?
 
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Additionally we have $a(x-p)(x-q)=ax^2 - a(p+q)x + apq = ax^2-5x+c$.
So $a(p+q)=5$ and $apq = c$.
If we substitute the $p$ and $q$ that we've found, we can find $a$ and an expression for $c$ in $a$, and finally $c-a$.
 
a(a/18)(1/2) = c
(a^2)/36 = c
a^2 = 36c

a(p + q) = 5
a(a/18 + 1/2) = 5
(a^2)/18 + 1/2 a = 5
36c/18 + 1/2 a = 5
2c + 1/2 a = 5
1/2 a = 5 - 2c
a = 10 - 4c
c - a = c - (10 - 4c) = -3c - 10
Sorry, still stuck.
 
$a(p+q) = 5 \implies a\left(\dfrac{a}{18}+\dfrac{1}{2}\right) = 5 \implies a^2+9a-90=0 \implies a = 6$ since $a>0$ (why?)

finally, you have $c = apq$

you should be able to finish from here

btw ... $c-(10-4c) \ne -3c-10$
 
Ah, I see. Thank you very much! :D
 

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