Solve sin(x)-1=cos(x): Step-by-Step Guide

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation sin(x) - 1 = cos(x). Participants explore various methods and identities related to trigonometric functions, focusing on algebraic manipulation and the application of trigonometric identities. The conversation includes elements of homework assistance and mathematical reasoning.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to approach the equation sin(x) - 1 = cos(x).
  • Another participant suggests using trigonometric identities to manipulate the equation, specifically referencing a formula involving a combination of sine and cosine.
  • A participant proposes squaring both sides of the equation and using the identity cos²(x) = 1 - sin²(x) to simplify the problem.
  • There is confusion expressed by a participant regarding the application of the Pythagorean identity, as they note that it still involves cosine.
  • A later reply reiterates the suggestion to square both sides and convert cos²(x) into sine terms, indicating a potential path forward.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to solve the equation, with some suggesting different methods and expressing confusion about the application of certain identities.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions regarding the participants' familiarity with trigonometric identities and the specific methods they have been taught. The discussion reflects a range of understanding and comfort with the material.

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So the problem is sin(x)-1=cos(x) and I don't know how to do this one.
 
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Which formulas do you have available to add/subtract sine and/or cosine?
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
Which formulas do you have available to add/subtract sine and/or cosine?

I don't know what you mean.
 
Elissa89 said:
I don't know what you mean.

Well... erm... I'm a bit at a loss of the formulas you can use or not...

See for instance the wiki page of Trigonometric Identities for a list of such formulas...
This may be a bit overwhelming, but one of the formulas in that page is:
$$a\sin x+b\cos x=c\sin(x+\varphi)$$
where $c = \sqrt{a^2 + b^2}$ and $\varphi = \operatorname{atan2} \left( b, a \right)$.

To be fair, there's a good chance that you haven't been taught this formula... but what have you been taught?
Or what are you otherwise supposed to know and be able to apply?
 
I don't think it has to be too complicated. :)

Square both sides of the given equation (post back if you don't know how to do that) and use the identity $\cos^2(x)=1-\sin^2(x)$. Simplify and solve the resulting equation, then check your results with the given equation.
 
greg1313 said:
I don't think it has to be too complicated. :)

Square both sides of the given equation (post back if you don't know how to do that) and use the identity $\cos^2(x)=1-\sin^2(x)$. Simplify and solve the resulting equation, then check your results with the given equation.

I did that but I'm still lost. My professor emailed me back, said to square both sides the squared cos can be turned into sines using the pythagorean theorem identity. Which doesn't make sense to me because the pythagorean theorem identity still has cosines in it?

Sorry I'm replying so late.
 
Elissa89 said:
I did that but I'm still lost. My professor emailed me back, said to square both sides the squared cos can be turned into sines using the pythagorean theorem identity. Which doesn't make sense to me because the pythagorean theorem identity still has cosines in it?

Sorry I'm replying so late.

Let's start with squaring both sides as your professor said:
$$\sin(x)-1=\cos(x) \\
(\sin(x)-1)^2=\cos^2(x) \\
\sin^2 x - 2\sin x + 1 = \cos^2x
$$
Now we can turn the $\cos^2x$ into sines by using $\cos^2x=1-\sin^2x$, as greg1313 suggested, can't we?
Then there will be no cosines left. (Thinking)
 

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