Solve sin³(x) - cos³(x) = sin²(x)

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The discussion revolves around solving the trigonometric equation sin³(x) - cos³(x) = sin²(x). Participants explore various methods to find solutions, including algebraic manipulations, polynomial formulations, and numerical approximations. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving techniques related to trigonometric identities and equations.

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  • One participant attempts to simplify the equation by dividing through by sin³(x) and transforms it into a form involving cotangent, but finds it unproductive.
  • Another participant applies triple angle formulas and arrives at a complex expression, expressing uncertainty about its usefulness.
  • A different approach involves factoring the left-hand side of the equation, leading to a potential solution of sin(x) = 1, but the participant feels stuck afterward.
  • One participant proposes a polynomial approach by letting t = sin(x) and derives a quartic equation, identifying t = 1 as a root and finding two additional real solutions numerically.
  • Another participant agrees with some of the numerical solutions but questions one of them based on quadrant considerations, suggesting a different angle for the solution.
  • There is a mention of the need for exact solutions rather than numerical approximations, with skepticism about the feasibility of finding such solutions for this problem.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake in their calculations and references a potential source for the problem, indicating a connection to established trigonometric literature.

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Participants express differing views on the validity of certain solutions, particularly regarding the numerical approximations and their corresponding angles. There is no consensus on the best method to solve the equation or on the completeness of the solutions presented.

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Some participants note the complexity of the problem and the challenges in deriving exact solutions. There are unresolved aspects related to the assumptions made during the transformations and the implications of quadrant considerations for the solutions.

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Hi MHB,

This seemingly very simple and straightforward trigonometric equation (Solve for x for which sin³x-cos³x=sin²x) has me stumped! I am fretting after I exhausted all kind of tricks that I could think of (which I will mention in my attempts next) trying to attempt the problem and now, I wanted so much to ask for help here at MHB!

First attempt:

I first divided through the equation by sin³x, bearing in mind sin³x≠0 and obtained:

$$1-\cot^3x=cscx$$

$$(1-\cot^3x)^2=\csc^2x$$

$$(1-\cot^3x)^2=1+\cot^2x$$

If l let $$ \cot x=k,$$ the equation above becomes $$(1-k^3)^2=1+k^2$$ and this is a futile attempt to say the least.

Second attempt:

I applied the triple angle formulas for both sine and cosine to the given equation and ended up with

$$\frac{3\sin x-\sin 3x}{4}-\frac{\cos3x+3\cos x}{4}=\sin^2x$$

$$3\sin x-\sin 3x-\cos 3x-3\cos x=2(2\sin^2x)$$

$$3(\sin x-\cos x)-(\sin3x+\cos3x)=2(1-\cos2x)
$$
This is another unwise substitution to make, knowing it can hardly bring us any closer to the answer...

Anyway, this is how I approached it.

$$3( \sin x- \cos x)-(\sin3x+\cos3x)=2(1-\cos2x)$$

$$3\sqrt{2}\sin(x-\frac{\pi}{4}-\sqrt{2}\sin(3x+\frac{\pi}{4})=2(1-\cos 2x)$$ I stopped right at this point, because we can tell this is a very bad move...

Third attempt:

$$\sin^3 x-\cos^3 x=\sin^2 x$$

$$\sin^2 x(\sin x-1)=\cos x\cos^2 x=\cos x(1-\sin^2 x)=\cos x(1+\sin x)(1-\sin x)$$

$$\sin^2 x(\sin x-1)-\cos x(1+\sin x)(1-\sin x)=0$$

$$\sin^2 x(\sin x-1)+\cos x(1+\sin x)(\sin x-1)=0$$

$$(\sin^2 x+\cos x(1+\sin x))(\sin x-1)=0$$

$$(\sin^2 x+\cos x+\sin x\cos x))(\sin x-1)=0$$

and obviously $$\sin x=1$$ is an answer to the problem.

And now, all kind of thoughts enter my mind, I am not even sure when we have the case ab=0, if a=0 is imminent and true, then b isn't necessary a zero. And everything seems to reach an impasse after getting sinx=1 as one of the answers to the problem.

So, I decided to factor the LHS of the given equation and see how far I can go with this approach...

$$(\sin x-\cos x)(\sin^2 x+\sin x\cos x+\cos^2 x)=\sin^2 x$$

$$(\sin x-\cos x)(1+\sin x\cos x)=\sin^2 x$$

and it's also safe to say at this juncture this won't work out well and I am at my wit's end to solve this problem.

I would appreciate it if someone could offer me some hints to solve it.

Thanks.
 
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Re: Solve sin³x-cos³x=sin²x

Hello
This is how I did it. We have,
\[ \sin^3x - \cos^3 x = \sin^2 x \]
Write this as the following.
\[ \sin^3x-\sqrt{(1-\sin^2x)}\;(1-\sin^2x) = \sin^2x \]
Here let \( t = \sin x\), and then rearranging the terms we get a polynomial in t.
\( (t^3 - t^2)^2 = (1-t^2)^3 \). Expanding this we have,
\[ 2t^6 - 2t^5 - 2t^4 + 3t^2 - 1 = 0 \]
Now using the rational root theorem and synthetic division, we can arrive at \( (t-1)^2 \) as
one factor. So obviously \(t=1\) is one root. The remainder polynomial equation then is
\[ 2t^4+2t^3 - 2t -1 = 0 \]
This is a quartic equation, for which there are known solutions. For this equation there
are two real and two imaginary solutions. The real solutions are \(t = 0.903408 \) and
\(t = -0.582522 \). Plugging back in the original equation for \( \sin x\), we can solve for \(x\).
\( x = 1.12765 \) and \( x = 3.76342 \), also the first solution of \( t=1 \) leads to \( x = \frac{\pi}{2}\).
So three solutions are \(x = 1.12765\;\;x = 3.76342\;\;x = \frac{\pi}{2} \)
 
Re: Solve sin³x-cos³x=sin²x

IssacNewton said:
Hello
This is how I did it. We have,
\[ \sin^3x - \cos^3 x = \sin^2 x \]
Write this as the following.
\[ \sin^3x-\sqrt{(1-\sin^2x)}\;(1-\sin^2x) = \sin^2x \]
Here let \( t = \sin x\), and then rearranging the terms we get a polynomial in t.
\( (t^3 - t^2)^2 = (1-t^2)^3 \). Expanding this we have,
\[ 2t^6 - 2t^5 - 2t^4 + 3t^2 - 1 = 0 \]
Now using the rational root theorem and synthetic division, we can arrive at \( (t-1)^2 \) as
one factor. So obviously \(t=1\) is one root. The remainder polynomial equation then is
\[ 2t^4+2t^3 - 2t -1 = 0 \]
This is a quartic equation, for which there are known solutions. For this equation there
are two real and two imaginary solutions. The real solutions are \(t = 0.903408 \) and
\(t = -0.582522 \). Plugging back in the original equation for \( \sin x\), we can solve for \(x\).
\( x = 1.12765 \) and \( x = 3.76342 \), also the first solution of \( t=1 \) leads to \( x = \frac{\pi}{2}\).
So three solutions are \(x = 1.12765\;\;x = 3.76342\;\;x = \frac{\pi}{2} \)

I think you need to add \(+ 2\pi k\) where \(k\in\mathbb{Z}\) since there are infinitely many solutions for each principle argument.
 
Re: Solve sin³x-cos³x=sin²x

I am assuming that \( x \in [0,2\pi] \)
 
Re: Solve sin³x-cos³x=sin²x

IssacNewton said:
Hello
This is how I did it. We have,
\[ \sin^3x - \cos^3 x = \sin^2 x \]
Write this as the following.
\[ \sin^3x-\sqrt{(1-\sin^2x)}\;(1-\sin^2x) = \sin^2x \]
Here let \( t = \sin x\), and then rearranging the terms we get a polynomial in t.
\( (t^3 - t^2)^2 = (1-t^2)^3 \). Expanding this we have,
\[ 2t^6 - 2t^5 - 2t^4 + 3t^2 - 1 = 0 \]
Now using the rational root theorem and synthetic division, we can arrive at \( (t-1)^2 \) as
one factor. So obviously \(t=1\) is one root. The remainder polynomial equation then is
\[ 2t^4+2t^3 - 2t -1 = 0 \]
This is a quartic equation, for which there are known solutions. For this equation there
are two real and two imaginary solutions. The real solutions are \(t = 0.903408 \) and
\(t = -0.582522 \). Plugging back in the original equation for \( \sin x\), we can solve for \(x\).
\( x = 1.12765 \) and \( x = 3.76342 \), also the first solution of \( t=1 \) leads to \( x = \frac{\pi}{2}\).
So three solutions are \(x = 1.12765\;\;x = 3.76342\;\;x = \frac{\pi}{2} \)
I agree with the solutions $x = 3.76342$ and $x = \frac{\pi}{2}$, but not with $x = 1.12765$. The reason is that when going from $\sin x$ to $x$ you need to ensure that you choose the angle in the correct quadrant. When you check against the original equation $\sin^3x - \cos^3x = \sin^2x$, you find that both solutions $\sin x = 0.903408$ and $\sin x = -0.582522$ require $\cos x$ to be negative. So in both cases you need to have $x$ in the interval $\bigl[\frac\pi2,\frac{3\pi}2\bigr]$. Therefore the solution is not $x = 1.12765$ but $x = \pi - 1.12765 = 2.01394$.

Ideally, it would be far better to have an exact solution rather than these numerical approximations. But I am not convinced that that can be done for this problem.
 
Re: Solve sin³x-cos³x=sin²x

Opalg, thanks for pointing mistake. I did the math in hurry.
Since you are from UK, you must have heard of S.L. Loney who did write a book
on trigonometry. I think this problem could be from that book.
 

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